• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    So, I’m obligated to be that guy.

    A big part of the Hunger Games plot was Katniss wooing rich donors into backing her underdog campaigns, first as a contestant and then as a true revolutionary.

    Mon Mothma was a mega-wealthy Corriscant socialite who built an underground financial network capable of financing the rebellion.

    And those are just the fictional reflections of real historical revolutionary struggles. Class Traitors are a pivotal part of any anti-capitalist narrative and for good reason. A rebellion marches on its stomach.

    Musk is still a coked-up ego-maniacal dipshit. But the idea that you just need a bumper crop of angry poor people to revolutionize a society has an extensive list of empirical refutations.

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      3 months ago

      Musk is not that guy, but yeah, all resistance stories have rich people on the other side secretly financing them and providing access to things.

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        3 months ago

        I don’t think Haiti had any secret anti-slavery plantation owners, but otherwise sure.

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          3 months ago

          If you didn’t know anything about Haiti that might be a safe bet but I’m sure more than one plantation owned by gens de color was open to seeing all people free.

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            3 months ago

            Lol. There’s a difference between joining the winning side so they don’t hang you and financing the rebellion.

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              3 months ago

              So you’re saying none of the freed people lent monetary support to the revolution?

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                I’m saying you’re an idiot trying to pretend plantation owners funded a slave rebellion out of the goodness of their hearts.

                For some reason.

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                  3 months ago

                  Having trouble following the conversation?

                  The correct comment (which you disagreed with) was “all resistance stories have rich people on the other side secretly financing them and providing access to things.”

                  Which you disagreed with for some reason.