Are you talking about the post about comparing the quality of life of a farmer in the 1800s vs now, and a bunch of you madlads took the position that the miserly farmer in the 1800s had it better? Wasn’t it you that that tried to argue that OP’s data was wrong by posting links that proved OP’s data was correct?
I swear, sometimes Lemmy makes me feel like I’ve fallen into a fever dream. The quality of discourse around these parts.
It’s not even how voter suppression works…
Please do continue. I’ve done a lot of research on GOP voter suppression in places like Georgia, so I’m excited to hear what you have to say on the topic.
My recommendation to anyone in a GOP state: Vote early, and I’d personally use a mail ballot to avoid their voting location shenanigans. They can’t make you wait in line for 12 hours if you get your ballot via the mail.
Rejections happen typically because the signature on the ballot doesn’t match the signature they have on record from your ID (state or driver’s license). Another reason is that states can change the requirements, and sometimes voters are not informed on those changes. So make sure you know the latest requirements for your state to avoid problems, and double check that you’ve followed all steps and your signature matches.
Things to know:
You can track your mail ballot. Most states offer online tracking so you can confirm they have it.
You could vote by mail and in person. Check the rules for your state, but in many places they can track your voting and will simply override your mail ballot if you also show up to vote in person. This is done so you can request your mail ballot, and retain the option to go vote in person if you feel like it. Check with your state website if this is an option for you.
Do this stuff early. No reason to delay. Check when your state opens early voting. If you plan to vote in person, going early gives you the best odds at short wait times. If you plan to vote by mail, voting early makes sure there’s plenty of time for your ballot to reach the counting place within all deadlines, and to deal with any clerical issues if any happen to come up, particularly if this is your first time voting.
Plus, when you vote early you get to enjoy civic pride for this cycle longer than everyone else.
Voter suppression is a long process involving districting and staffing of poll locations, along with preventing other options for voting and using spurious reasons to throw out ballots.
It’s not just something that happens the day of. Which is what someone who doesn’t really know what it means would say.
They’d think Republicans are physically running around suppressing votes in real time.
I’ve done a lot of research
I’m sure you have
Edit:
Side question, why do you only seem to comment on this OPs posts?
50 comments in one year. But you show up for all of OPs posts to get his back?
I mean, standing outside polling areas and harassing people does happen. Hell, they even took to destroying ballot boxes. Just because one thing happens, doesn’t mean something else isn’t also happening.
standing outside polling areas and harassing people does happen
Got an example that didn’t end in arrest? If say one where they did it for an extended period of time uninterrupted, but we can set a real low bar for this one
Hell, they even took to destroying ballot boxes
I’m assuming you’re referring to mail in ballot boxes…
Those things that aren’t just out on election day?
And can (and do unfortunately) get vandalized on other days besides election day?
I would characterize my participation in this thread as PRO early voting, AGAINST voter suppression, and asking questions from your low-effort comments.
RE: Voter suppression
This is a very important topic so I’m glad for the discussion.
Voter suppression is most damaging on election day because that’s when most of the actions by red states come together. By doing deliberate suppression like reducing the amount of polling locations, sending in older and broken voting machines, and inventing BS laws like prohibiting citizens from giving each other water, the goal is to make Nov 5 particularly gruseome for anyone trying to cast their vote from an urban center like Atlanta. As a result, we routinely see wait times of 12 hours in Atlanta just to cast a vote on election day.
Other efforts towards suppression affect other types of voting. Like the ID requirement and the shifting of mail voting regulations. However, the most damaging of these efforts affect those trying to cast their vote on Nov 5. This is why I recommend that people review their options for their state to vote early, and make a plan to vote as early as possible (in person or by mail).
RE: support for OP
This is silly, but I think it’s funny that you claim to have reviewed my post history. I’ve been critical of this poster’s memes in this sub a few times and recently too. But why let the facts get in the way of your rant, same as you did in that farm post in which I didn’t even comment (what a mess of a thread that was). I only brought it up here because you are doing it again on something important, just ranting on feelings when we are talking about voting. I don’t care if you want to rant at anyone on this sub including me, but let’s stay on facts when talking about important stuff, please. This is an important election and we are talking about helping people figure out how to cast their vote.
Are you talking about the post about comparing the quality of life of a farmer in the 1800s vs now, and a bunch of you madlads took the position that the miserly farmer in the 1800s had it better? Wasn’t it you that that tried to argue that OP’s data was wrong by posting links that proved OP’s data was correct?
I swear, sometimes Lemmy makes me feel like I’ve fallen into a fever dream. The quality of discourse around these parts.
Please do continue. I’ve done a lot of research on GOP voter suppression in places like Georgia, so I’m excited to hear what you have to say on the topic.
For those that actually want to look into it: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/georgias-voter-suppression-law
My recommendation to anyone in a GOP state: Vote early, and I’d personally use a mail ballot to avoid their voting location shenanigans. They can’t make you wait in line for 12 hours if you get your ballot via the mail.
PSA About mail ballots, because I know a lot of people are worried about this stuff.
Voting by mail is safe in the US. Here are some data points:
The ACLU recommends voting by mail https://www.aclu.org/news/voting-rights/voting-by-mail-is-easier-and-safer-than-you-think-heres-how
They would not make that recommendation if they thought your vote could be easily suppressed that way.
The rejection rate of mail ballots is only around 1% https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2020:_Analysis_of_rejected_ballots
Rejections happen typically because the signature on the ballot doesn’t match the signature they have on record from your ID (state or driver’s license). Another reason is that states can change the requirements, and sometimes voters are not informed on those changes. So make sure you know the latest requirements for your state to avoid problems, and double check that you’ve followed all steps and your signature matches.
Things to know: You can track your mail ballot. Most states offer online tracking so you can confirm they have it.
You could vote by mail and in person. Check the rules for your state, but in many places they can track your voting and will simply override your mail ballot if you also show up to vote in person. This is done so you can request your mail ballot, and retain the option to go vote in person if you feel like it. Check with your state website if this is an option for you.
Do this stuff early. No reason to delay. Check when your state opens early voting. If you plan to vote in person, going early gives you the best odds at short wait times. If you plan to vote by mail, voting early makes sure there’s plenty of time for your ballot to reach the counting place within all deadlines, and to deal with any clerical issues if any happen to come up, particularly if this is your first time voting.
Plus, when you vote early you get to enjoy civic pride for this cycle longer than everyone else.
Voter suppression is a long process involving districting and staffing of poll locations, along with preventing other options for voting and using spurious reasons to throw out ballots.
It’s not just something that happens the day of. Which is what someone who doesn’t really know what it means would say.
They’d think Republicans are physically running around suppressing votes in real time.
I’m sure you have
Edit:
Side question, why do you only seem to comment on this OPs posts?
50 comments in one year. But you show up for all of OPs posts to get his back?
Just a crazy coincidence?
I mean, standing outside polling areas and harassing people does happen. Hell, they even took to destroying ballot boxes. Just because one thing happens, doesn’t mean something else isn’t also happening.
Got an example that didn’t end in arrest? If say one where they did it for an extended period of time uninterrupted, but we can set a real low bar for this one
I’m assuming you’re referring to mail in ballot boxes…
Those things that aren’t just out on election day?
And can (and do unfortunately) get vandalized on other days besides election day?
Did you mean to agree with me?
On the off chance you are hear to have a reasonable discussion, here - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/11/06/election-officials-facing-armed-militia-presence-at-some-polls.html
People being harassed at polling stations. All the rest happens AS WELL, but it is a good idea to get your votes in early and safely.
Thanks for the example of how voter suppression isn’t just on election day!
I’ve never disagreed with that.
My point is voter suppression isn’t just something that happens on election day, and thanks again for providing the source backing me up
I would characterize my participation in this thread as PRO early voting, AGAINST voter suppression, and asking questions from your low-effort comments.
RE: Voter suppression This is a very important topic so I’m glad for the discussion.
Voter suppression is most damaging on election day because that’s when most of the actions by red states come together. By doing deliberate suppression like reducing the amount of polling locations, sending in older and broken voting machines, and inventing BS laws like prohibiting citizens from giving each other water, the goal is to make Nov 5 particularly gruseome for anyone trying to cast their vote from an urban center like Atlanta. As a result, we routinely see wait times of 12 hours in Atlanta just to cast a vote on election day.
Other efforts towards suppression affect other types of voting. Like the ID requirement and the shifting of mail voting regulations. However, the most damaging of these efforts affect those trying to cast their vote on Nov 5. This is why I recommend that people review their options for their state to vote early, and make a plan to vote as early as possible (in person or by mail).
RE: support for OP This is silly, but I think it’s funny that you claim to have reviewed my post history. I’ve been critical of this poster’s memes in this sub a few times and recently too. But why let the facts get in the way of your rant, same as you did in that farm post in which I didn’t even comment (what a mess of a thread that was). I only brought it up here because you are doing it again on something important, just ranting on feelings when we are talking about voting. I don’t care if you want to rant at anyone on this sub including me, but let’s stay on facts when talking about important stuff, please. This is an important election and we are talking about helping people figure out how to cast their vote.