• Crikeste@lemm.ee
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    23 days ago

    Politics are people’s ethics and morality applied.

    It is perfectly valid to judge people over them, and to shame people because of them. Just like you’d shame someone for littering.

    Or even more aptly: just like you’d shame someone for using the N word. It is perfectly legal; it is NOT acceptable.

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      23 days ago

      The problem with a two party system is that it polarizes the grey areas where a lot of people don’t have friendship or family ending feelings. When people subscribe whole heartedly to party mindsets they gain friends in that group but wall themselves off from others.

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        23 days ago

        When people subscribe whole heartedly to party mindsets they gain friends in that group but wall themselves off from others.

        This is when people make their political views part of their identity. If the party does something that you don’t agree with you are faced with two choices (sub-consciously); either you change your views to match the party, or you invalidate part of your identity. Depending on how big a part of your identity you have subsumed to the party; the harder it is to break that part of your identity.

        It is always a worrying sign when someone says “I am a <insert political party here>”; rather than saying “I support <insert political party here>”. Support can easily be modified and revoked, your identity is not so easy to change.

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        23 days ago

        That is true. But I think in today’s political climate, it is fair to conflate people’s political affiliation with the extremes of the party. Like “fiscally responsible republicans”, you can’t run away from the other bigoted policies of republicans. Same with democrats and things like immigration and supplying arms to Israel.

        It’s a hard landscape to navigate, now probably more than ever.

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          22 days ago

          Europe has it’s own problems. Anti-muslim bigotry is rampant in many countries, as is anti-immigrant and refuge sentiment.

          And England has made itself the home of transphobia thanks to a certain misogynistic, racist, and homophobic/transphobic children’s author who everyone there seems to take seriously.

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            22 days ago

            America has own problems too. And some countries can destabilize because of immigrants. Poland for example

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              22 days ago

              Absolutely. I think most of this thread is about the many problems America has.

              Doesn’t mean Europe is any better. Every country has their bigots.