The 26 August attack on Ukraine has cost Russia about US$1.26 billion.
  • Hazzia@infosec.pubEnglish
    41·
    3 months ago

    How do they still have money

    I know the sanctions weren’t as effective as hoped, and they’re still selling gas to China, but like seriously how do they still have money

    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.eeEnglish
      43·
      3 months ago

      They’ve migrated to a wartime economy, which gives you a lot of command over the economy. They’re currently doing a careful dance of increasing their money supply, while trying to stabilize inflation using what foreign currency reserves and income they have.

      The biggest thing keeping their economy going is the price of oil, which is hovering around 80-90$ a barrel. The vast majority of this is being gobbled up by the government via their national wealth fund.

      So long as heightened domestic productivity is maintained for the war, and the price of oil is higher than 60-65$ they could retain solvency for years.

      A real economic collapse won’t be felt until the price of oil bottoms out, or if they attempt to transition out of a war time economy.

      • rbesfe@lemmy.caEnglish
        30·
        3 months ago

        The key point about wartime economies is that they don’t actually increase quality of life for the people, even if everyone is making a decent salary (by Russia standards anyway).

        Public infrastructure in Russia was already struggling before the war, I can only imagine the state it’ll be in in 10 years

        • TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.eeEnglish
          15·
          3 months ago

          The key point about wartime economies is that they don’t actually increase quality of life for the people

          That’s debatable dependent on the situation and the timeframe you’re looking at. You’ll usually see an increase in domestic production and consumption as a general by-product of lower unemployment.

          However, they are still going to run into the guns vs butter problem. Unless they actually seize Ukraine and extract more wealth from it than they spent acquiring it, their investments into military infrastructure are going to be losses.

      • Plopp@lemmy.worldEnglish
        14·
        3 months ago

        I looked at one of those ship monitoring sites and there was almost a continous string of oil tankers going to and from St. Petersburg, so I’d say they’re probably selling a fuck ton of oil still.

        • Erasmus@lemmy.worldEnglish
          7·
          3 months ago

          Would be a shame if something bad happened to fuck up that port and made it, unusable. 🤔

          • Plopp@lemmy.worldEnglish
            14·
            3 months ago

            Someone quick call Ever Given and her sister ships to come and accidentally clog the passages around Denmark.

    • werefreeatlast@lemmy.worldEnglish
      114·
      3 months ago

      Money doesn’t come from the US. It is a derivative from people going to work and banks borrowing from future generations to give more money to the supremes and the billionaires. To make one billionaire all you gotta do is borrow from several generations ahead. So don’t get angry if the inflation is high. That’s something that paid for billionaires before you were born. Nah. This is so that your kids can’t have a house and same for their kids and kid’s kids. It’s great 👍.

    • Tja@programming.devEnglish
      4·
      3 months ago

      They have a lot of natural resources and are selling them still (China as you said, India). Plus it’s not like people will complain if inflation is high, or road don’t get repaired.

    • JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      3·
      3 months ago

      I guess this stuff was already in their inventory so using them isn’t going to cost them a dime? Replacing them, on the other hand, could be a problem.

  • fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.ccEnglish
    6·
    3 months ago

    Article says they used 77 Kh-101 cruise missiles which it says “cost” $13m each, so that’s $1b.

    I suspect that value includes development costs which were spent decades ago.

    It might only cost $1m to make another one.

    • addictedtochaos@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      3 months ago

      they had to use them eventually, they were built for this exact purpose. so they invested in destruction, they didnt loose money at all.