Looking past the recent vegan drama, have you ever wondered why your pet might not like particular foods? Have you ever actually tasted the food yourself?

I have, and some taste more like a chemistry lab than actual nutrition.

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    4 months ago

    I mean, animals don’t necessarily experience taste in the same ways humans do. What tastes terrible to me may still be very appealing to a dog or cat etc., regardless of taste.

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      The way my dog licks his balls you’d think they taste really good, but they didn’t taste great to me

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      Exactly. We like sweet things as this is our way to detect glucose for our brain; salty things for minerals, etc. Our pets diets are different, so are their taste preferences. Iirc, a totally blunt piece of dried food tastes great for a cat, since they seek protein more than anything.

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        4 months ago

        Yup, cats can’t taste sweetness for that reason, while birds don’t have receptors for spice and can eat chillies easily.

        That’s just the taste buds themselves, additionally:

        • A large part of our taste response is tied to smell. This is why food tastes different when sick. It’s also hard to try yourself because you can “smell” through the back of your throat too
        • the air around us will affect taste perception, which is why some foods taste better or worse on a plane
        • genetic factors exist, such as how some people taste cilantro/parsley as soapy
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          I have the cilantro soap gene. Never heard of the taste of parsley being affected the same way.

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          4 months ago

          That’s why hospital food seemed so next level bland, everything smelled like “clean.”

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      4 months ago

      True. Still, have you ever tasted a chemistry set?

      I did when I was 10 years old. It’s a wonder I’m still alive. Raw chemicals are not nutrition.

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        Maybe these “chemicals” are the flavour the dog wants tho, I imagine it’s kinda like a really concentrated gravy?

        I don’t imagine flavour has that much to do with nutrition, in fact it’s probably lacking in nutrition if it has no flavour.

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          Have you ever mixed hard kibble with soft food, only to watch your dog literally pick out all the hard kibble and only eat the soft food? And yes, before anyone asks, his teeth are fine.

          The hard food (at least that particular brand) tastes fucking awful.

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        What constitues chemicals for you? I agree with your point- if your dog doesn’t like the treat and you find it tastes unnatural, I agree it’s maybe a bad treat/crappy quality treat.

        But “chemical” is not really a descriptor for taste- everything is chemicals. Sugar is a chemical. There are chemicals in natural foods such as meats, veggies, fruits, it’s all chemicals. I think you’re trying to say that the treats taste unnatural or overly processed?

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          Maybe you’re right, maybe ‘chemical’ wasn’t the best way to describe it. I can definitely agree that those treats tasted completely unnatural.

          I mean like they taste like they were soaked in diesel fuel and dried out unnatural. That’s why I described it as a chemical taste.

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    Animals don’t taste the same way we do. For example, cats don’t have the receptors for tasting sweet things…so they can barely detect sweetness at all.

    Dogs only have 25% as many taste buds as humans, so most things have a very mutes taste for them. Plus, every dog I’ve ever had absolutely LOVED cat shit covered in kitty litter, so I never put much faith in their sense of taste.

    Yeah, they’ll have flavors they like more or less, just like us, but even we can’t trust our sense of taste as a metric for nutrition…if we could, we’d all be addicted to brocolli and spinach instead of processes foods and sugar.

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      How do you know that the only reason you don’t like cat shit is because you have a cultural revulsion to it?

      My wife fucking loves coagulated blood. Like just big old chunks of blood which was packed into casings and boiled until it became a massive chunk of scab. Meanwhile I legit cannot be in the same room with it. As far as I’m concerned it might as well be cat shit

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      Guess what?

      If my dog refuses to eat what’s supposed to be a dog treat, and I try it and it tastes like a chemistry lab, then I think me and my dog both agree it tastes more like chemicals and more toxic than garbage.

      Even if humans and animals have different taste buds, if the food tastes wrong, ain’t nobody gonna eat it.

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      I also wouldn’t know what my dog thinks of the taste of cat shit, as that’s not on his menu. Not sure where that thought came from even, that’s not even food.

      I’m referring to actual food products for pets. If the pet doesn’t like it, there’s probably a reason why, and that reason is likely that companies tend to make substandard foods not suitable for human consumption for pets.

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        lmao nobody feeds their dog cat shit. but they try to eat it anyway because they are dogs and they’ll eat a dirty diaper if you don’t throw it away out of reach. smh

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        4 months ago

        I had a Jack Russell who was crazy about eating out of the litterbox. Just horrifying, obviously. Maybe it tastes like meat, idk, who knows what it smells like to a dog.

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    A friend of mine back in middle school did a science project on what cat food tastes the best. He used his cat as the main experiment, but when he presented his project he also had samples for everyone to try and vote on their favorite. The cat liked Science Diet. The consensus among our classmates was Meow Mix.

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      Interesting. At the end of the day though, what matters is what’s healthy for your pet and what they like best.

      I never suggested that humans and pets have the same taste buds and appetites, but when your dog refuses to eat a dog treat, and you taste it yourself and it also tastes like chemical garbage, then it only stands to reason that those particular dog treats are trash.

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        I didn’t realize you were trying to present some sort of argument here, I was just sharing a fun story that answered the post title.

        All food tastes like chemicals. Taste is a function of chemical receptors on your tongue. Btw you are made entirely of chemicals, but many people have already told you this today.

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          I don’t know the exact brand of dog treats, but they tasted like they were soaked in diesel fuel and dried out. That’s what I mean when I say they tasted like chemicals.

          Whatever brand they were, they were colored red and green. I don’t even think ants would eat those things.

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    Yep. I’ve tasted kibbles and baked treats / cookies. They’re generally not great, but the ones that taste ok are also my dogs favorites. Usually just like a sugar free human snack.

    I do a lot of dried sardines as snacks and a couple Chinese coworkers tried them, they said they taste just like their version but without the salt and spices.

    I feed my pets raw, so haven’t tried those. They seem to love it though.

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      Cool cool 👍

      Someone donated some dog biscuit treats for our recently adopted dog Brownie, but he wouldn’t eat them. I tried a bite, but it didn’t taste anything like nutrition, it just seriously tasted like a chemistry lab… ☹️

      He likes soft Chicken Gravy Train though.

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        it just seriously tasted like a chemistry lab…

        Have you ever tried your pet’s food?

        Have you ever tried your son’s chemistry lab?

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    4 months ago

    wondered why your pet might not like particular foods?

    No. It’s the same reason that you don’t like particular perfectly good foods. They’re attuned to different factors, but it’s the same process to appeal to them.

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      Back in the day, my mom fed their cat 9 Lives outdoor food. After a while she quit eating.

      After I figured out the difference between outdoor and indoor food (basically extra preservatives), and got the same exact food, but the indoor variety, kitty chowed down!

      Animals can taste the fucky chemicals as well.

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    I feed my pet things that I eat, too! Collard greens, mustard greens, turnip greens, various squashes, fresh blueberries, etc.

    Except for his bugs. I don’t like cockroaches or worms very much. But he seems to like them! So he gets those, too.

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      Generally I feed my dog either Gravy Train Chicken Flavor, or kitty kibble (he’s a small dog, only like 19 pounds).

      He prefers the soft food, but will eat the hard food if he gets hungry enough.

      He also likes chasing fiddler crabs, but he’s smart enough to not bite them LOL!

      But dog biscuit treats around here taste like nothing but chemicals, and he won’t touch them.

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        I used to put my cat’s kibble in a bit of water so it’d get soft (and it’d trick him into staying hydrated, too). It’s great for picky eaters and elderly pets!

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    i like to think my palate is slightly different to that of a dog

    they evolved to basically survive on table scraps and other food humans didn’t want to eat so i’m not sure our concepts of “peak taste” will be the same

    people sometimes have to stop their dogs eating their own vomit

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    I was going to ask WTF… but they like everything I feed them. (Cats) Hard food by an independent company that is no carb all protein. (Edit, young again pet food, my older cat had diabetes until I started this food, now he doesn’t!) Seafood Reveal cans, all pure fish. And not sure what’s in Friskies Temptations… but they want those like it’s crack.

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    I did, I can say that it tastes mostly like nothing, but my dog loves it because the smell is so strong (I think)

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    I’ve just returned to Lemmy after a while so I’m OOTL. Can anyone give me a gist of what happened with the recent vegan drama on here? Or maybe link to a post I can read?

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      The company Wild Life claims to have created a nutritionally complete vegan cat food, even though it’s common knowledge that cats need meat proteins and nutrients in their regular diet.

      https://lemmy.ca/post/27549478

      I am no expert in the field, maybe they’re onto something, maybe not. 🤷‍♂️

      Edit: Guess they dropped the link ☹️

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        Proteins are just amino acids. You can find the same proteins in plant foods as meat. There are other details about what different types of basic foods contain, of course, but it’s theoretically possible to create something that contains all the same nutrients as meat out of plants.

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          When I briefly skimmed over the original article, they made a point to mention their food contains taurine. You know, like one of the things they put in Monster Energy drinks…

          I’m no animal nutrition expert, so I don’t know how that does or doesn’t help with kitty nutrition, but I’d just as soon feed my kitty actual chicken or tuna and call it a day.

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    My 13 years older sister gave me a chocolate piece when I was a kid, and asked afterwards if I liked it. I did. She gave me more, and didn’t tell me they were dog “chocolates”.

    Tried one a few years ago - not as good as I remembered, and wouldn’t ask for another.

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    I’ve eaten cat biscuits. They don’t taste offensive, but there’s nothing in them for me to enjoy. Even so, they’re the one thing all my cats agree is worth eating.

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    I ate a dog treat that I’m 90% sure was just a bone shaped nilla wafer.

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      I don’t doubt you a bit, I tasted one of those when I was a kid. Totally edible. A bit bland to me, but edible.

      But that was a different brand apparently. I’m not sure what brand the recent dog biscuit treats was, as they were donated in a Ziploc bag by a friend, but those tasted like chemical hell.

      Our friend didn’t mean anything wrong, he was just trying to help, but those particular treats ended up tossed in the trash. Honestly I don’t think the ants would even eat those things.

      Edit: The old ones that actually tasted edible were all tan in color, but these new chemical infused ones were all colored red or green. Something just wasn’t right with those.

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    I tried a piece of kibble when I was a kid, mostly because it bothered my mom and I thought it was funny. It wasn’t good, but it wasn’t the worst thing I’ve ever eaten. Most of my dogs have eaten pretty much whatever you offer them, except (of course) my chihuahua. She’d eat buffalo sauce but not a carrot. When she lost all her teeth, she’d eat a flavor of wet food happily for like, a week, and then refuse to touch it ever again, so I don’t think it was the food being gross as much as it was her being a picky little shit.