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  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
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    3 months ago

    Nato already does not enforce their mission against the US and US backed vassel states

    When did the US invade a member of NATO, again?

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      3 months ago

      Sorry, their presumed mission of ensuring peace in Europe through collective defense.

      It’s built and structured around Russia being the main antagonist but it’s mostly been the US who’s activities have been destabilizing the security of Europe.

      But you’re right, the explicit mission is to protect their members and noone else, so I guess everything is working as intended

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        3 months ago

        It’s built and structured around Russia being the main antagonist but it’s mostly been the US who’s activities have been destabilizing the security of Europe.

        lol

        Tell me more about how America’s aggression turned the Baltic Sea into a NATO lake.

        Fascists like you just can’t help yourselves when it comes to Russia, can you?

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          I have no problem acknowledging Russia’s aggression and imperialist activities, but NATO fanboys pretend as if NATO members are the ‘good guys’ and cannot themselves be seen as the instigators of European conflict.

          NATO ends up categorizing conflict in Europe into two sides and ignores all conflict originating on the member side. An alliance that includes all members would at least in-theory be more equitable, but we already know that even a global supergovernment can selectively enforce their mission and ignore offenses by particular members.

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            3 months ago

            but NATO fanboys pretend as if NATO members are the ‘good guys’ and cannot themselves be seen as the instigators of European conflict.

            Hey, want to tell me what the European conflict going on right now is and who instigated it?

            Maybe you could also do the last major European conflict too, just for fun?

            “NATO is sabotaging European security” is such a braindead talking point that requires not just ignorance, but active denial of reality. It’s unsurprising that fascist shitheads find it so very appealing to parrot.

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              3 months ago

              Are we excluding conflicts that involve NATO members but are technically Europe-adjacent?

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                2 months ago

                You’re reaching, and I’d bet you have been for a long time. Years even.

                However you aren’t correct, even technically (Which I’m told is the best kind of correct).