• SassyRamen@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Americans are upset, just politicians are afraid to lose their annual bribes if they talk outside of church.

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      11 days ago

      The other side gives bribes too. The only difference is that Israel has a stronger lobby and a bigger pot to finance their payoffs.

      This will never end until we get the money out of politics.

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    11 days ago

    They responded to this in the past: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/israel-west-bank-and-gaza-travel-advisory.html

    This kind of thing is entirely predictable and US citizens have been warned by the State Department about there being an active conflict happening in the area.

    So a US citizen died while ignoring a travel advisory from the US government. US citizenship doesn’t make someone invincible, and it doesn’t mean the US military is going to avenge your death (or whatever fantasy you can come up with) if you’re deliberately ignoring the warnings about an area of the world being dangerous. The obligation of protecting citizens was fulfilled by issuing the warning.

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      There is no legal obligation to protect citizens. Is there an ethical obligation? Kind of no, for reasons you listed, but kind of yes, because the cause of death was predictable and it’s something in the US has partial control over.

      From a practical standpoint, we all agree that the US won’t do anything, because they certainly aren’t worried about pacifists in war zones where one of the sides is getting its weapons from the United States.

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        Although there are a bunch of ways the US can apply pressure. I think people overestimate the power ceasing weapon sales would have. While I believe it is the ethically right thing to do. It wouldn’t really hinder Israel’s ability to wage this war. It is allowing them to maintain their very vast stockpiles. But they could probably go years without even getting low, much less running out, without external weapons.

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    12 days ago

    Democrats are limp wristed when it comes to Israel. Expect more death, they won’t raise a finger to stop it. Republicans aren’t any better.

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    12 days ago

    Do you know how many Americans the US government kills in the US? Why would they give a shit about one more far away?

    Lol.

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      12 days ago

      I think people forget that cops are part of the government and they definitely kill innocent people.

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    12 days ago

    I wonder Ozma, what would you have the US do?

    (This is for OP, others need not reply)

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    12 days ago

    As the Zionist elite are the real owners of America, I think nothing will happen.

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      12 days ago

      Just say Jews. You mean Jews.

      Globalists, Zionist elite, international cabal…just say Jews.

      Your dog whistles are heard loud and clear on the internet these days.

      We really need to Make Nazis Afraid Again

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    Um, this clearly falls under the US policy regarding its citizens vis a vis ‘play stupid games, win stupid prizes’.

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      12 days ago

      That policy doesn’t seem to apply to people living in Russia, or even travelling to North Korea.

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      Does that include Israeli Americans? Because I don’t think it does.

      Edit: unless they happen to be you know left wing ones protesting apartheid. Then they’re fair game.

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      Would you be saying the same thing if the insurrectionists were mowed down by the national guard on Jan 6?

      Ashli Babbitt got what she had coming. Play stupid games win stupid prizes, right?

      Or is that different somehow because she was a righty?

      You idiots are going to have to FAFO the hard way. Go ahead and try again when Trump loses, we have a president that will deploy the national guard and open fire on you terrorists

      edit: go ahead and censor this comment, nothing illegal is suggested. no violence is threatened on my part. I am in support of protecting our capital from terrorism