• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    The thing is it legitimizes them.

    This isn’t a new or unique problem.

    I think Israel’s government sucks, I say it a lot. Sometimes a Nazi agrees with me. I don’t say “even Nazis hate Israel”.

    I tell the Nazi to shut the fuck up, and that were not on the same team.

    Before Biden dropped out, sometimes I’d criticize him and a trumper would show up and agree with me. I never said “even trump supporters think Biden is a shitty candidate”.

    I told them to fuck off and we weren’t on the same team.

    So when Dick Cheney shows up to say Kamala’s right and trump is bad…

    I expect Kamala to tell Cheney to fuck off at minimum. Ideally she could actually hold him accountable for some of his war crimes.

    I dont want to see everyone talk about how things were better when Republicans were like Dick Cheney. Because shit was fucked up even back before Reagan was in office.

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      Have you actually looked at the polls?

      The race is neck and neck.

      You don’t get to pick and choose at a time like this.

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          2 months ago

          Show me where Harris ‘reached out’ to Dick Cheney.

          She didn’t change anything to win over GOPs, they came over because they are sick of Trump.

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      I expect Kamala to tell Cheney to fuck off at minimum

      Are we talking about the same Kamala Harris who defined John McCain a “war hero”, a “true patriot” and a “conscience of the Senate”?

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      I don’t see it as legitimizing anything. MAGA pundits are even now calling Cheney of all people a RINO. Don’t interrupt an enemy when they are making a mistake. If this pushes some Republicans to vote for Harris, wonderful. If it discourages some moderates from voting for Trump by not voting (WHY would they still be voting for him as moderate…but that’s a different topic), then that still helps. She should just not acknowledge his endorsement, let it fall where it will. Any attention is going to hurt someone’s feelings, and there’s already the problem of people on the left who can’t have their perfect utopia with Harris and somehow think her not winning will help their cause.

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        Don’t interrupt an enemy when they are making a mistake.

        Which would be fine and I wouldn’t have made my comment.

        That’s not what’s happening, moderate politicians and mainstream media are celebrating a war criminal’s endorsement of Kamala…

        So in your hypothetical scenario that’s isn’t based on reality, we’d agree.

        But do you agree with me that in real life, we should be ignore Dick Cheney except to talk about how he still needs to be held accountable for war crimes?

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      So when Dick Cheney shows up to say Kamala’s right and trump is bad…

      I expect Kamala to tell Cheney to fuck off at minimum

      I wonder if Dems always choke in Presidential races because they have people like you as their chief strategists, where vague concepts of noble virtue and ideological purity supersede pragmatism at the most crucial moment.

      I can’t possibly imagine being so privileged that I could get an endorsement from a former Republican VP during an incredibly close race and my response to him would be “fuck off”.

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        2 months ago

        I wonder if Dems always choke in Presidential races because they have people like you as their chief strategists,

        You’d have to be completely and totally ignorant of American politics to think in 2024 this is what the party would do…

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          2 months ago

          What specifically? Choke? Leave it to Democrats to sneak defeat from the jaws of victory. Or do you mean hire an amateur as a political strategist? I agree, but sometimes I wonder.

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      This is a trash analogy because everyone knows Nazis hate Israel, it’s part of their ideology.

      A former republican vice president endorsing a democratic president candidate is note worthy because it’s goes faint their ideology.

      That you choose to reach for Nazis to make your argument is the clearest Godwin Law I’ve witnessed in a long time.

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        This is a trash analogy because everyone knows Nazis hate Israel, it’s part of their ideology.

        They don’t though. Nazis love Israel and historically have never opposed the concept, since they agree on the point that Jews should leave Europe.