• johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world
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    The debate is literally an agreement between Donald trump and kamala Harris. There is no neutral debate commission involved. This doesn’t really make sense.

    Those candidates are free to have their own debate if they think they can convince someone to put them on TV.

    Edit: Also is Jill Stein a “moderate”?

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      I think the point he’s trying to make here is about the undemocratic nature of the election system, in which only the two frontrunners have a chance.

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        But there is no public debate commission, and no public funding going to these debates. It’s two campaigns making a deal with a private TV network to show them on TV arguing with each other. Should there be a public debate commission? And if there were, would it be appropriate to feature more candidates? Maybe! But as is, the only real issue is that the vast majority of the public does not care about these candidates.

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          Trump’s mass deportation and ‘poisoning the blood of our nation’ rhetoric is literally Hitlerian. Nazi as a term is not being watered down here.

          I wouldn’t consider Harris a Nazi though, just another Neo liberal. Although the Democrats shift on the border, conceding to the republican narrative, and the current stance on Israel/Palestine is still concerning

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            My issue wasn’t with calling Trump a Nazi (I find that assessment correct), but calling them both Nazis. Yes, the rightward shift is concerning, but the false equivalence put up here understates Trump’s danger and heavily overstates Harris’s.

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              I think you accidentally double posted.

              Yeah that’s fair, I agree. I think it’s important to highlight the rachet effect when it comes to Democrats, especially on harmful policies like immigration and foreign policy, but it’s also important to recognize the difference between them and the Republicans. The only avenue for progressive change is with the Democratic Party, but only with enough voters demanding better representation

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                re. Double posting, I think that was Jerboa being fucky when I posted my reply

                heckin internet making me look silly

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            *** Rwanda partially checks in to offer a viewpoint on non-nazi genocide ***

            *** Bosnian serbs would like you to forget their history over a few rough years ***

            *** A few Armenians have something to say ***

            The list of genocides is long, and 1940s were just one entry in a litany of cases.

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          Do you have a better term to describe people supporting the systematic murder and ethnic cleansing of people trapped in a concentration camp?

          Nazi is the most accurate term to describe Harris and Trump.