• Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Look if you ever reach the point of muttering about “Kids these days” and it’s not about how they all suck at Counter Strike you are lost. Utterly lost. The spirit of humanity has died within you and is rotting. The kids will be fine. The kids have always been fine. There has never been a generation of The Kids in history that was truly weirder than their parents.

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      I-was-saying I do think some generations are uniquely shittier than those that come before and afterward. The kids are all right, but most of the lead-infused boomers and almost as many of the Xers, not so much.

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            Material conditions or alternatively, were they ever that cool?

            I have a theory that for many people, the youth-leftist thing isn’t based in solidarity or whatever, it’s based in self-interest - across generations. Makes sense to be a socialist, when you’re poor, and all. As the survivors gain their riches, they get more conservative - they have property to “defend” now. They were always self-serving people, it’s just they were occasionally in a position where that meant to be vaguely left.

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              I-was-saying I became a leftist partially out of mutually-experienced suffering with future comrades, but primarily because I wanted others to be better off and happier. Maybe it was because of happy chemicals from helping others if some reductionist wants to be smug like that, but I still wanted to help others.

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                  I was stating that my own “youth leftist thing” wasn’t necessarily self-interest unless you want to boil down the desire to help others and see them be well as neurochemically-driven “selfishness” or whatever.

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                    And I’d believe you, I don’t think nobody helps others out of the good of their heart or whatever. Those people exist, loads of them are here.

                    I’m saying, when you get into generational views, it might not hold up for a large amount for them.

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              Makes sense to be a socialist, when you’re poor, and all. As the survivors gain their riches, they get more conservative - they have property to “defend” now. They were always self-serving people

              Yeah wouldn’t necessarily blame all this on people being ontologically “self-serving” from the beginning, thats liberal moralistic thinking. A shift towards cuckservativism its just an inevitable consequence of gaining wealth and property within a capitalist society. They weren’t born selfish, they became selfish after years of indoctrination and falling into a position that strongly incentivises it.