• Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    He doesnt make that in actual money tho. Rich people’s value are vibes based egregors summoned through the stock market. So, in a similar vein, if the stock market crashes and never recovers, he loses most of his money. This is why I propose ripping down Wallstreet to starve the machine.

    • LoreleiSankTheShip@lemmy.ml
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      11 hours ago

      He’d still have a lot of property to his name, a lot of other assets and stuff that aren’t tied to an arbitrary stock market. Even if you crash it, mansions and luxury cars would still be very valuable. He will never not be a billionaire due to that.

      That is, unless you redistribute his wealth. Then yeah, he wouldn’t be filthy rich anymore.

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        8 hours ago

        well it’s worse than that becase most of those houses and other assets were bought for the most part from loans taken out at very low interest rates against the stock he has in his company’s and other shares in his portfolio . The stocks on whole give better return than that interest rate. So it’s free money they can spend an they don’t even have to sell their stock and pay taxes on the returns just the dividends at a way lower rate that any working person. the way this is setup it becomes impossible for him to spend money fast enough for him to actually lose more money than he gained.

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          As long as the loans aren’t paid off though, running the stock into the ground would result in margin calls. An empire built on borrowed money with loans secured only through the value of the empire itself can be a fragile construct.

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        10 hours ago

        Very true, but you have to be able to sell those assets to gain from them. If the stock market is erased you can’t sell your yacht to another exploiter because their networth is decimated too and they can no longer borrow off anything but physical assets, and now they also have a massive “income” stream that is now down so borrowing is more risky. We coulda had a bad bitch of a society, instead we let the rich turn us all into Mammon zombies.

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        10 hours ago

        Love both of these, but going after the stock market is how you kick billionaires in the balls. Then you redistribute their assets to serve society instead of society serving their assets.