The last major holdouts in the protest against Reddit’s API pricing relented, abandoning the so-called “John Oliver rules” which only allowed posts featuring the TV host. It's the official end of the battle. The Reddit protest is over, and Reddit won.

The Reddit Protest Is Finally Over. Reddit Won.::Reddit corporate claims victory over its disgruntled mods as r/aww, r/pics, and r/videos abandon the “John Oliver rule.”

  • Phantom_Engineer@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Bullshit. Nobody, or at least very few people, expected Reddit to revert the changes. A protest can be successful even if it doesn’t lead to immediate change. I was here on Lemmy long before the API nonsense happened over at Reddit, and the difference over here is night and day. Lemmy has been around for awhile, but until these last few months it couldn’t hold a candle to Reddit in terms of content or activity. Maybe it still can’t, but now it has enough users to be viable. Reddit might go on like nothing happened, but in the background a competitor has been born.

    • ItsComplicated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I migrated from Reddit. Most of the communities I followed would be hours or days between posts (if they were not private). Everything left was just not pleasant.

      I am still fumbling around here but for the most part it is has better discussions and people seem less rude.

      I do not regret leaving at this time. I am sure my infinitesimal presence or lack there of does not bother Reddit, but it made me feel better.

      • zeppo@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Yeah, when I have looked at reddit recently I have observed that mostly the conversation is terrible. There is definitely more content than on Lemmy, but I also like talking to people who speak in entire sentences.

        • themarty27@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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          2 years ago

          “Posts” and “content” are not the same. Most recent Reddit posts are not content. Few people left, but the ones that left were the content creators and moderators. Reddit, the platform, is dead, and Reddit, the social media, wears its skin.

        • ItsComplicated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          2 years ago

          I have enjoyed differing viewpoints with reasons, or examples included. I feel this helps promote continued engagement of the topic especially when presented without hostility.

      • Ab_intra@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 years ago

        I think that’s a good thing. Less is more, maybe? Dose it really have to be at the scale of reddit? I hope not. Tbh I hope Lemmy becomes bigger for sure but it doesn’t need to become the biggest thing. The more alternatives the better!

      • sachamato@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Same here. I think that the only thing that I can do now to add something of value is to participate in good and respectful discussions while sharing content that I genuinely like. A grain of salt ends up adding to a mountain they say.

    • parachaye@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I’ve made the switch over and Lemmy feels perfectly viable and improving very quickly especially with the third party app devs working on supporting Lemmy. Reddit won’t die but it looks like it’ll stagnate, whereas Lemmy has got a brighter future.

    • Ab_intra@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 years ago

      For sure. I’m using Lemmy much more than reddit. But it sucks because I really loved Reddit and I still use it to some degree. But when Relay stops working I might just stop altogether. I’m not installing their shitty app.

      • Botree@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Reddit still holds a ton of valuable info in niche topics which will take Lemmy years to build, and that’s only if the niche communities here ever see the light of day. I’ve deleted most of the useless content I have there, but the more helpful ones I’ll leave for the sake of others like me who still visit occasionally for answers you can’t get anywhere else.

        • Ab_intra@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 years ago

          For sure. I hope that Lemmy becomes one of several reddit-like platforms that can compete against Reddit. It’s going to be hard considering how Lemmy is designed but it’s going to be nice to have a more decentralised social media presence. I would love if something would come and defeat Facebook as well… I only use it to stay in touch with friends.

        • Ab_intra@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 years ago

          Not entirely sure as the dev have yet to comment on why. It seems like he has a deal with Reddit where he is allowed some breathing room to develop and make available a subscription solution. But it’s been awhile now so I dunno. It’s the only app I’ve heard about that is still working.

    • GonzoVeritas@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I deleted 16 years worth of my ‘content’ across 6 handles and moved to Lemmy/kbin. When I do go back to check on Reddit, it’s easy to see that many of the better contributors are gone, the quality of comments and posts, as well as the voting on posts, has greatly diminished. Some subs barely have anything in their ‘new’ queues.

  • xkforce@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Looking at the site recently it feels like half the content is gone. A lot of old stuff hanging around /hot on subs that I frequented doesnt seem like anyone “won” here. Reddit lost content creators, the users lost site functionality and content and half the mods got kicked to the curb for nothing.

  • Veedem@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 years ago

    It was to be expected, but I found Lemmy because of everything that happened, uninstalled Reddit, and now use Mastodon and Lemmy as my social media platforms of choice, so it’s a personal win.

    Hopefully, as Lemmy continues to thrive, instances hold up to the pressure of growth and we see an influx of content that made Reddit so valuable to users and Reddit corporate alike.

      • Kikkertje@aussie.zoneEnglish
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        2 years ago

        A toxic relationship where I kept begging for just one more hit. So glad I’ve found Lemmy.

    • JJROKCZ@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 years ago

      You’re not alone, the growth stats of several instances show that thousands of us did the same move. I now only use Reddit when I search error codes at work and an old reddit post has the answer. It’s gone from my phone and I’ve been on lemmy since the day Apollo was murdered

    • KeraKali@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I also found Lemmy because of Reddit’s fiasco, and I think its much better. Being able to have so many instances to get stuff from and forge communities offers a lot more freedom.

      • aquarisces@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 years ago

        +1, I wouldn’t have even considered moving off of Reddit until all the drama that had happened but once it did - and I found out about Lemmy - I’ve been happily more active on here in my communities of interest. Only reason I go back to Reddit these days is to encourage others to give Lemmy a go.

        • mycoxadril@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 years ago

          I am struggling with finding a space for the majority of my communities of interest over here. I curated such a niche homepage over my decade on Reddit that it does not compare being here. But the apps I have found that simulate my experience on my now defunct third party Reddit apps have kept me here, in the hopes that enough folks will migrate over so that communities will grow in the same way they did on Reddit.

          I know Rome wasn’t built in a day, and I’m stubborn enough in my refusal to use the official Reddit app, and annoyed enough with old Reddit on mobile, that I will sit here and wait for the same experience I used to get over there.

          • pablonaj@feddit.deEnglish
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            2 years ago

            Same here, and I also hope communities will grow as more and more people move to the Fediverse. Basically it’s the niche parts of reddit that I’m missing but I’ve managed to stay away from it for the most part. I think we need to make sure to generate some content in the communities we are interested, being lurkers won’t help Lemmy grow.

      • Eezyville@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        2 years ago

        I wouldn’t say Lemmy is better but it has great potential. The mobile apps aren’t as good as Reddit’s third party apps but that’s changing. The content we are getting here isn’t as good and reddit has its history of content to search through. Lemmy will have its own issues we will have to sort out but it can be done if we work together.

        I think a big issue on Lemmy that I’m seeing is people making it to be Reddit-no-corporate when I believe it should be is own unique thing. Since it isn’t corporate and thus no ads I think it would be hard to monetize high “karma” accounts so maybe we can get higher quality discussions. But if also seen people trying to create their echo chambers here by demanding defederation when one instance has a problem with a few trolls.

        • Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.comEnglish
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          2 years ago

          You compare Lemmy and Reddit but I see it like this : Lemmy is the code, so if you want to compare, compare say lemmy.world with Reddit, it makes more sense.

          And lemmy.this and lemmy.that, that’s the cool thing, everyone can have a go at making a “subreddit”, with their own rules.

          And I’m not holding my breath for ads, “people have to eat” etc will bring them to popular instances I guess, but then you can just migrate if you want to!

          Interesting times!

  • HousePanther@lemmy.goblackcat.comEnglish
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    2 years ago

    I am not really shocked because the only way to really beat Reddit is by leaving the platform completely as in what many did when Melon Husk took over Twitter. Mass exodus. Express displeasure by voting with your feet and GTFO.

  • db2@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Nobody cares though. The reddit administration has dethroned their own site, it will never gain that back. They’re done, even if the site hangs around like a bad smell for a few more years.

        • meco03211@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 years ago

          I would desperately love to know what they estimated the IPO at before and after this whole mess.

          • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
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            2 years ago

            Is also worth remembering that the person doing the estimate was insane. Even before all of the process the site was never worth the four billion dollars or whatever the hell that stupid number was.

            The site was massively valued because of the user data not for the site itself now that a lot of the user data is gone and not a lot of new user data is being generated the site is less valuable. The websites still exists of course but that was never the valuable bit of it.

  • cccc@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 years ago

    I wonder how many users and how much traffic they lost in the process.

    • db2@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Real or faked? Because they have tons of bots and paid traffic to make the site look busier than it actually is. Steve figured that out years ago because he’s a sociopathic liar with access to venture capital and an IPO to defraud.

  • fulano@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
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    2 years ago

    The incredible thing about these articles is that they don’t make the slight mention of lemmy.

    That one linked is a well written summary of what happened, but it’s partial if they don’t include the migration that happened, even if it wasn’t that big.

  • TORFdot0@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 years ago

    I’m here and I have an ad-free, troll-free, wholesome community to engage with on mostly the same topics I followed on Reddit. I declare myself the winner

    • Oneobi@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I read that as toll free and was wondering if I was missing something.

      Yah, too early in the morning for me!

  • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Honestly I feel that this protest just showed me how uninteresting Reddit has become. Outside from small niche communities it’s basically equivalent to any other news feed out there be it google news, Twitter or whatever.

    Maybe it’s not as good as we thought it was.

    • margaritox@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Me too! I thought it’s be hard to be without reddit, but it turned out to be easier than I thought. And I’ve noticed that lemmy is growing faster than I expected.

  • _thrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 years ago

    So buying reddit coins and gilding every “fuck spez” comment/post didn’t work? I can’t believe it!

  • stepfather@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Nobody is surprised. They strong armed all the mods with integrity off the platform and replaced them with the spineless willing to play the game. Somehow they’ve become even more of a vacuumed echo chamber than they already were, which I’m sure they’re pleased with anyway. But they lost even more legitimate users. I do have a “troll” account that I use to express my true opinions before I’m eventually banned for saying something that goes against the status quo. But it is nice to not have to worry about every comment I ever make getting me downvoted to shit and banned because I said something the hive mind didn’t agree to. Lemmy is my main now, but I also check out Tildes and Hacker News. Glad I found these places instead.