Wow, this is awful. Some people reported that these ads are also very petty and not necessarily related to the game, like apparently Elden Ring shows an ad for a licensed mousepad when you hover over the game now…
Edit: Playstation Product Manager says this is actually a new bug. I really doubt it but they do seem to be “fixing it”.
What an absolutely terrible fucking idea.
Can’t wait for major story spoilers to show up full-screen on the background of the homescreen because clickbaiters on YouTube are fucking assholes.
Also really don’t need product placement on the home, I am on my PS5 to play games, not to fucking buy stuff. It’s a console, not a goddamn webshop.
This really needs an option to get disabled.
Edit: Reading again it just seems to get worse. Looking at the alternative game ads, offers and promotions when selecting a game seems borderline against consumer laws, at least in EU. Especially kids could be easily targeted and triggered by this. Also most of these examples make it look like you’re starting up an entirely different game, it’s just such a awful update all together. No self-respecting interface designer would come up with this, it’s 100% corporate predatory marketing cunts that came up with this kind of stuff.
I heard from another lemmy user that his new Xbox required him to click an ad to finish booting up. So with a grain of salt MS’ consoles are even worse. If this continues and i don’t see why it won’t, PC gaming gonna be the only viable one soon. Thank God steamdeck and valve Linux collab are now a thing
Holy shit, this is full blown verification can shit.
They saw the cans as a challenge and are inching closer and closer to see where the cutoff for bullshit is.
My piece of shit, $1800 Vizio TV does that. I can’t even default it to a specific input without clicking through an ad.
God, that’s awful. Is it connected to the Internet or are they internal ads? I suppose you’ve already looked into a piratefix firmware update or something? I have a big roku tv that i keep away from my wifi lest ads sneak into my experience too
I’d kill Internet to it if my wife didn’t leave on random free streaming shit like Pluto to play for the dogs when we leave. The steps it takes for me to get to streamio are nuts. Boot on TV -> close ad and navigation to Fire stick -> listen to auto play ad while piece of shit fire stick loads UI -> finally get to watch what I want.
That’s dystopian nightmare shit. Never buying a smart tv. Fuck having the nicest thing if that’s what it takes to deal with
Sounds like a job for a rasberry pi with pihole installed: https://pi-hole.net/
I’ve really wanted to start tinkering with rasberry pi, so maybe that’ll be a fun first project!
Ugh I love Steam but when I click on a new game, sometimes it’s like WATCH THIS STREAMER STREAM and it’s in the middle of the game like I WANT GO INTO IT BLIND GIVE ME AN OPTION TO DISABLE THIS
I either GoG or pirate these days. You want my money? Then respectfully sell me the product.
If you are taking about the storefront you can disable that completely in your options.
I couldn’t find one when it first came out, and haven’t looked since. Thank you so much!
Sure thing, if I were in front of my pc I’d have given you more precise instructions but yeah I was elated when I found that setting as I don’t enjoy livestreams even if it’s not a spoiler.
It’s a console, not a goddamn webshop.
Console makers see them as one and the same. This being Lemmy I have to advise that the only solution is to own your own machine, so best build your own hardware, install Linux, and compile all the games you want to play yourself.
I have a PC, with Windows though, I can’t be bothered with the limited Linux support and hardware woes that come with it.
I only played a few exclusives on the PS5 before, most recently Astro Bot, but since everything else is basically coming to PC I recently upgraded it anyway. It’s becoming less and less appealing to even bother with consoles anymore. Even Nintendo seems to barely bother to dare anything innovating.
My Linux gaming machine is a Steam Deck, it’s been a pretty positive experience and you only really need to tinker if you’re straying off the golden path.
I imagine we’ll see some new Nintendo innovation with the Switch 2, they are at least good for throwing in a load of wacky ideas with new consoles.
To be fair the Steam Deck is similar to consoles, it is only one piece of hardware that people can’t alter (or aren’t meant to) that natively runs on a Linux system and is entirely designed to work as such. I think the Steam Deck is an interesting concept, but I don’t believe it can be compared to custom built computers, as well as the idea of supported games on any choice of Linux distribution. Support is significantly better than it used to be, but it’s still such a long way off.
While it defaults to a console-like experience it is meant to be altered, they give you a full desktop environment as standard and even provide instructions to install Windows if you really want.
Artist: designs really cool visual for gamers to see before launching
Sony: “Oooo, free ad real-estate!”
Sweet, just in time for the pro. Fingers crossed the next revision doesn’t play games at all, just $1000 to pipe Morbius trailers to my TV. It’s all I ever wanted.
Sony will just flash their 30th anniversary skin again and people will forget and drool all over again.
Isn’t it rad that Sony designed the ps5 to have easily replaceable side panels and then for some reason only releases the really cool panels as part of a full console?
There will probably be loads of third-party panels just because of that lol, just need some spray paint for the the glossy middle part or something for the finishing touch
I don’t know if you were part of the memers who got Morbius re-released but if so hats off because back then my in-laws were so excited to show me this movie they discovered on Netflix.
Just so well done
Sony looking at the rotting corpse of Xbox and taking notes. But only the wrong ones.
At least Microsoft hasn’t announced a marginally improved $700 pro console that doesn’t even come with the disk drive.
Yet.
I wonder if anybody remembers when it leaked Microsoft had a concept of a plan about restrictions on Xbox discs (used/shared), everyone gasped, Sony mocked them in a video about “sharing discs” on PS4 and became a turning point in the console wars…
Even a decade later: Remove discs at your peril! Half the reason I’ve even bought consoles is for Blu-ray movies (still unbeatable AV quality). Sony won both the console and disc drive wars FFS! Still not enough. “Line must go up more!”
I hope MS is at least mocking them back right now, for giggles. Before announcing a very similar thing next year…
Generally, I find that the discs often little more than licenses and require the actual have to be downloaded.
Yeah, but how long until it doesn’t come with a power brick, and you have to supply your own?
I mean, if it has USB PD, that could be a not so unreasonable thing. That is, supposing USB PD supplies as outlets become common.
Yeah. It’s crazy to think that USB can now handle 240W. And yes, the naming conventions are terribad but, at least the standards are actually open, unlike VESA’s.
Amen!
$80/yr subscription to play online
30% cut from all sales
Ads on homescreen
Lackluster game library, busy remastering perfectly good games
Single purpose device
PS5 will be my last ever console. I don’t see the value proposition in consoles anymore with the rise of PC handhelds.
Even better. The steamdeck is like the Switch. Dock it and play on your TV. You can even render on a gaming PC and stream to your TV of you want those cutting edge graphics.
Agreed. Just canceled PS Plus. Fuck Sony for the shitty bender they’ve been on.
Same for me with my series x, MS has all the same bullshit
Now I see why they never allowed custom backgrounds like the PS4. They wanted to do this from the beginning.
Crazy stuff… Ads everywhere. Makes my choice to not buy any console this generation seem a lot better. It saved me money and I don’t get ads forced on me. I call that a win win.
Is steam deck a console? From this gen?
Either way it’s pretty good. You don’t even need to run their os if you don’t want to.
At this point, the distinction between console and PC comes down to the corporate side. The PS4 and PS5 operating systems are based on a BSD (probably FreeBSD but not sure), and are capable of running a desktop OS (as long as hackers find a way to bypass Sony’s locked-down firmware). XBox One and Series use a Windows-based OS, also locked down by Microsoft to only run the applications they want.
Everything about the Steam Deck is designed with gaming in mind, but in terms of capabilities, it’s no different from a PC. You could hook it up to a USB-C dock and use it for work. I’d sooner call it a handheld PC than a console.
I’ve used mine more as a PC than console. Love the OS, it’s basically Windows without any of MS’s bullshit.
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That’s neat! I knew about the bsd origins but I didn’t know they allow other oses now.
I have not ironically used the steam deck for amateur satellite tracking before. Its more suited for that purpose than a laptop in the field lol.
they allow other oses now
They don’t. It’s the same category as jailbreaking an iPhone: possible, legal, might brick your console, Sony hates it.
Well that sucks NVM.
I would argue that it’s a handheld PC since it’s not locked down to heck and back. It would also be the one thing I would buy but I have no use case for it so I don’t.
Yeah, same. If I were going to get a handheld console, it’s pretty much exactly what I’d want, but…I really don’t need another portable computing device.
I still enjoy my PS5 for a few exclusives I play on it. But damn I’m getting very much triggered to just go back to exclusively PC gaming.
$700 gets you a pretty nice PC these days…
Or two Steam Decks!
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Or 73% of a PS5 pro if you’re in Canada!
Or one steam deck and a fuck ton of games!
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I’m still using a 1070ti and hitting stable 60fps with newer games. Medium to low settings, usually but most slow down comes from poor optimization since I’m running a 12th Gen and regularly see medium usage on both GPU and CPU.
It’s still worth it for the freedom and then upgrade with time
12th Gen i5 and a 3060 will outperform a PS5 pro
With a 2 min search I found a cyberpowerpc prebuilt for $700 that included a r7 5700 and rx 6700. And yes, you can absolutely get 60 fps at 1080p on some aaa titles; I don’t know where you get that idea you can’t, especially if you can tweak graphics settings (for the record, most pc gamers don’t even use ultra- high and medium presets are the most reasonable settings). I’m sure a title like Diablo 4 doesn’t require tuning at 1080p at all.
That sounds like a pretty nice PC to me. Probably not going to play everything on ultra, but neither do consoles.
Ads have ruined the internet. Truly.
Ads have ruined everything.
Build a PC
Install Linux
Fuck corporate bullshit.
What distro tho?
Very happy with Linux Mint
Bazzite use the home theatre version for a console like experience. Or go with the desktop versions Gnome and KDE both work really well however the emudeck devs have programmed it to work with KDE if you wanted to use that go with KDE.
I just switched to Bazzite on my Legion Go and LOVE the freedom from Microsoft.
Real talk: whichever one makes you happy. Do a little research with some search terms such as “play {game} on Linux” and see what other users are running. Then, assemble a few live disks and test-pilot a few distros.
It’s pretty fun getting to switch out your OS so freely and once you find an interface that feels good, you just plop your ass into that seat. If you keep decent records of your configs and such, you might find yourself starting over again multiple times while you “try to get it right.” That’s not failure, that’s just advancing your skills and making yourself happy.
Linux can be as simple or as advanced as you want it to be.
Pop!OS for no video card hassle
Anything popular enough that you can easily google anything you need to troubleshoot. Beyond that, doesn’t really matter which one.
Anything but Ubuntu will be perfectly fine. There really isn’t that much difference between the major distributions.
Package manager choice is pretty important, and for that I always recommend debian-based for a pc for a new Linux user. APT is just so good.
Anything including Ubuntu will be perfectly fine. Canonical’s shenanigans that us Free Software people like to bitch about are entirely irrelevant to new Linux users.
No snaps are fucking tragic and should be avoided at all costs.
Look, if the choice is “use Ubuntu because it’s easy and officially supported by Steam” or "give up and stuck with Windows (or even worse, a console) would you really suggest the latter?
That’s just a false dichotomy fallacy.
It was nice to have someone take this stand and I fully support this. People switching over to Linux already have their own stuff to deal with and need time to accustom to their new environment, and forcing them to embibe ‘FOSS’ philosophy and other strong opinions as held by others in Linux communities is only going to turn them off.
So are you just going to run around this community posting this same comment whenever something happens?
As both a Linux professional and freedom loving enthusiast that hates corporate bullshit, you bet your black ass I am. The block button is also free.
People like you are the reason I’m running Linux Mint on all of my PCs now, and I couldn’t be happier. Keep fighting the good fight!
But then I’d be a Linux cringelord 😬
So a step up from crayon-eater?
Not by much 🤣
My pay checks beg to differ.
“Game will start after ad: 1 of 5” 😂🤣😭
A game you paid for. On a console you also paid for. And you also pay for PS Plus as well.
Don’t give them ideas, holy shit. Ads are already present in some sports games, though, afaik
Well with sports games at least its “a realistic part of the experience”
Like when you watch a live sporting event on TV, there’s always commericals in-between the action. In that sense it fits the meta.
Also, sports games are the worst, pay 80 bucks every year for an updated roster and tweaks to the mechanics.
What, you don’t want to pay another 80 bucks for what could have been a content patch to last year’s game? Pshhh… You’re not a real fan.
Is what I would say if I were the type of guy who should take a long walk off a short pier.
PCMasterRace. Each year, your consoles get shittier.
To be fair, Windows is getting worse every year as well and Linux isn’t officially supported by most developers so you kinda need to compromise somewhere.
I personally went with Linux because I got fed up with Windows bullshit and the games I can’t play are mostly games I’m not really interested in playing in the first place.
The good thing is that Linux is officially becoming a market space that they have to pay attention to or lose money. Not because of us, but steam deck normalized it. 4% of users doesn’t sound like a lot, but to a company who is desperate enough to put ads everywhere just to make a few pennies, well, it may be worth it now
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Microsoft master race, get it right.
gross.
I agree. People don’t want to face the truth. For the decades that the “PCMR” meme has existed, it’s all been about supporting Microsoft.
Sure, recently, the steam deck and Valve let you go “but Linux!” But the PCMR term is tainted. Always has been. You can’t tell me it was about Mac OS, Linux and Windows.
And this is before we look at the history of “master races.” It’s all really fucked up.
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Yeah, I’m pointing to the obliviousness of the whole thing. It’s really strange. It’s not like Microsoft just pulled off their mask with Windows 11.
It all started as a gag joke on a bit from ZeroPunctuation.
I’m so glad I quit consoles. Now I’m just rooting for steam to get every game running perfectly in linux so we don’t have to deal with Windows either.
Still have to deal with DRM and not owning your games
The arrogance of tech giants has never been higher.
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You can play Nintendo games on PC, with the added bonus of not giving money to that ghoulish company.
I played BotW and TotK on my PC, and let me tell you friend, with the increased frame rate, and the ability to run reshade, it looks and feels better than ever.
Also, tinfoil and ghost shop is pretty cool if you have a hacked switch.
My PS5 is really just a Demons Souls Remake machine.
For real, this was 85% of the reason I caved lmao. The other 15% was that I was presented with the opportunity to purchase one at a time when that was rare so I said fuck it
