• _stranger_@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Software that never gets updated isn’t a good thing. Even the Voyager probes still get software updates.

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          1 month ago

          I don’t think y’all understand. Software is never done, it just becomes abandoned. You have been a “tester” for every piece of software you’ve ever used. And that’s a good thing, because the alternative is you get stuck with whatever the first version is. No one wants dead software.

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            1 month ago

            There is a difference between software getting updated and software getting fixed though. We want the first scenario not the second one

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              Not a lot of options there. You either go with an old pre-computer car or get an open source car (which isn’t really an option).

              I’m not talking about the infotainment system, just to be clear. I’m talking about the software that controls the functions of the drive and safety systems. If you want an infotainment system that you have complete control over, I’d suggest putting an open source tablet on your dash

              https://itsfoss.com/linux-tablets/

              Sadly, it looks like most of the FOSS car infotainment projects died a few years ago.

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                  Nope. If you want control over what’s getting done to your software, you’ve got to take ownership of it, or you might get changes in your fixes you’re not happy with.

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                    1 month ago

                    Well my comment was not about having control over the software/firmware though that will be cool.

                    My logic is that well tested, polished software/firmware have very few bugs and hence most of the updates they get are feature additions or improvements to current functionality (examples in an EV could be updates making the BMS more robust, tweaking the regen modes according to feedback from the users, etc). Poorly tested, half baked software/firmware will be full of bugs and broken functionality and will lead to ‘updates’ where all the changes are correcting broken functionality and serious bugs. This will be an unpleasant experience for the user and we should hold companies accountable when they do shit like this

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        1 month ago

        Are you sure? There’s a ton of them that do. Unless you have an older vehicle.

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          I have a 2016 Prius. I’ve never needed to download a software update. Somehow Toyota could handle making a hybrid without it being necessary.

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              1 month ago

              So an optional update rather than one you have to do because of a recall, the thing we’re talking about? Because otherwise this seems like a “technically” sort of gotcha.

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            Counterpoint is that this recall can be done OTA instead of requiring you to make an appointment and visit a dealership which is a million times more convenient. Your car has had recalls too.