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    I have a somewhat bad memory of playing DND as like a 13 year old. We were a mess. There was a cliff, a waterfall, and rope. Someone tied rope around himself and wanted to go down. There was a lot of cross talk and the guy with the rope around said he was going down.

    The DM was like “no one is holding the other end of the rope”

    “What?”

    One by one they went through what everyone else had said they were doing. Searching the cave rocks for secrets. Keeping watch at entrance. Fighting over who got the magic stick. Etc.

    Player went over the cliff.

    It was decided that the character would wash up downstream with 0 HP and would live, so long as we could get to him in a reasonable time. Lessons were learned, sort of.

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      I try to avoid “gotcha” DMing. It’s frustrating for players to focus on what feels like an unimportant detail. If the players are wrong about what’s unimportant, then give their characters a wisdom save to notice.

      I can easily imagine what a stronger person would be able to lift. But I can’t easily imagine what a wiser person would remember to check.

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        Yeah, if you were actually in this situation, that isn’t something you’d just forget, unless your intelligence is extremely low (low enough that you probably wouldn’t have the idea to use the rope in the first place). This is bad DMing. They should have said something like: “You’re aware no one is holding the rope. Are you sure?” If that’s actually what they wanted to do, they can do it. If not, they are now aware.

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          If you REALLY want shenanigans, have them make an int or wis saving throw with DC 2 to remember nobody is up there holding the rope.

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        GM like the characters have basic common sense, unless the players say otherwise. Stupidity should be initiated by the players, not forced by the GM willfully misinterpreting players’ words.

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      I was playing D&D (for the first time) and my party were a group of exterminators killing giant spiders on city rooftops. The first thing I did when we got up there was tie myself off to a chimney. Later, we were fighting a really big spider that was right at the edge of the roof:

      Me: “I hurl myself at the spider.”

      DM: “You mean you try to hit the spider, or try to grapple the spider…?”

      Me: “IDK, I just throw all my body weight at it.”

      The spider ended up splatted dead on the ground (traumatizing some unfortunate passerby), I ended up dangling off the side of the building, and one of my party members had to make a saving throw to dodge the rope as it swung through his square, LOL!

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      Poison is generic. Venom is specific to normal method of delivery (e.g. snakes and bees).

      Swallowing venom may or may not hurt you. Probably not a great idea, but there’s a better chance you’ll be okay.

      Getting a known poison stabbed/injected intravenously seems likely to be pretty effective, but it depends on the mode of action. Blood goes everywhere in the body, so it will likely find its target eventually.

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        My understanding was that toxin is the generic term, poison is usually ingested and venom is delivered into the blood? But it gets often confused in everyday language, and is only accurate when talking about animals. Not a toxicologist, so I might be wildly wrong

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          Most of them would be denatured by stomach acidity but the risk of something like paradoxin finding a small route into your blood stream is too damn high.

          When it comes to venom that is also used as a toxin in other species, though, and is a big killer of humans, the crown goes to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrodotoxin which is used as both a poison against predators for things like pufferfish and a venom for things like the blue ringed octopus.

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      Alternatively, his blade was not very deadly unless he got it in someone’s mouth.

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        “Here, lick my knife.”

        “No.”

        “Please?”

        “Still no. Who puts a knife in their mouth? If you’re trying to poison me, maybe you should put poison on the rim of a stein and offer me some ale.”

        “I’m the worst assassin ever…”

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      That’s for poisonous vs venomous, but poison is a generic term, the substance won’t care how it got into your bloodstream.

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      Yes, but he said it was coated in poison, not venom. Licking it was a proper way to administer the dose.

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      an inept hero who sets out to find the cure to a plague, but ends up fighting a larger evil. Yoshihiko is guided by a comedic Buddha, and accompanied by an incompetent wizard, a woman who wants to kill Yoshihiko because she thinks he killed her father, and a warrior who will kill Yoshihiko as soon as the warrior finishes telling Yoshihiko his stories.

      That’s a great setup. It’s like a reverse 1001 Nights.

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    Wow, what a nostalgia gut punch, I watched this when I was in the last years of school I think. It’s extremely funny for fans of JRPGs.