• ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    There’s an interesting cultural difference that I’ve observed. My grandpa was a senior engineer and he was proud to dress immaculately. He went to work in a suit and he never wore less than business casual even when going to the beach. I don’t think he owned any shirt that wasn’t a button-up long-sleeve. I’m an engineer (with a different specialty) and I only wear a suit to job interviews. Generally when I’m at work I’m in jeans and a short-sleeved shirt.

    I wonder if it’s a matter of generations or countries or both. When and where my grandpa was young, a suit was very expensive and hierarchies were rigid.

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      3 months ago

      I think its generational. I even see the generational differences across my office. when meeting with our customers for formal meetings, the 35+ engineers are in a suit, or at least a blazer. The 20 somethings are wearing torn jeans and burkenstocks

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        I think at the places where I’ve worked, torn jeans would be a little over the line in the office, although managers who said something about it would be perceived as stuffy. However, I would ask before wearing business casual to a meeting with clients. I would assume that a suit was expected and I think I would be in real trouble if I wore torn jeans.

        But then again, I’m 35+ now. Do you work at a small startup?

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          I work at a daughter company of a bank that develops said bank’s internal software. Torn jeans are A-OK and might only get commented on when visiting the parent company. My team’s architect is virtually never seen without a Chaos Computer Club hoodie.

          Earlier in my career I worked for a well-established company in the medical sector. The only person in the company who dressed up was the boss – and only when meeting someone external.

          I am 35+ and I’m both companies we had older team members.

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      Maybe this says more about me than anything else… But for me, I’d rather be judged by my work than appearance or credentials. The worse I can look in a corporate environment and still maintain a reputation of a great engineer the more authentic I feel my reputation is.

      When I retire I aspire to be well respected by everyone in spite of looking like a category 5 dumpster fire.

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      3 months ago

      I think it’s 90% because of silicon valley and the tech industry. Software developers often make more than licensed engineers of other disciplines these days, so why would a young engineer model themselves after their professional body and older members instead of the disruptive adjacent industry?

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          I’m on the east coast myself, in my 40s, also tech (mostly hardware/design, but some software in support of that hw or just doing something experimental).

          I will 100% show up with a T-shirt, jeans, and sneakers. If I have a meeting or its the fall/spring, I have a sportjacket, but I’ve admittedly shown up in a zip up hoodie before (though that was specifically in a space I was doing some concepting in, not a boardroom).

          Client meetings with their c-suite will get a collar, but its a golf shirt in the summer.

          That said, I work from home pretty much exclusively, so its all t-shirts now. I wouldn’t even worry about straight up Donald Duck’ing it if it were more comfortable (its not).

          I think its just generational.

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        Idk I’m an industrial engineer and I dress like the workers because it’s comfortable, safe, and shows them I’m not putting myself above them

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      Most I’ll do for an interview is jeans and dress shoes nowadays. And to be honest, I usually dont bother with the dress shoes.

      I only did the suit thing the first few years after college

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      Im not in the US and here most IT people wear casual. The exception is those in fintech which usually have a more formal dresscode. Im always wearing comfy clothes like cargos and a hoodie… And really i couldnt care less if someone at work didnt like what i wear. Im not there to look pretty for them, im there to make stuff work better and make the company more monkey.

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      My best t-shirt and best chinos is most you’ll get from me at a job interview. Why would I dress differently than I will on the job?

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      I was always told that if you dress too well you’ll damage your credibility as an engineer.