I held off on Windows 10 for as long as I could until Adobe, and therefore my job, required it. Now this nonsense. I hope this isn’t the start of them joining on the web DRM bandwagon.

    • Leigh@beehaw.orgM
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      2 years ago

      Love and use them for Photo, Publisher, and Designer, but there’s no alternative for Lightroom. And honestly, I like Lightroom. It truly is the best at what it does. Simple, easy to use, great features, thoughtful design.

      • vector@lemm.ee
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        2 years ago

        I gotta admit I run a 350k image lightroom catalog as well, neither open source clone is even close. The license fee for PS and LR is reasonable too.

        • Leigh@beehaw.orgM
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          2 years ago

          350k? As in, 350,000 images? Holy shit, man. How do you have that many pictures? And how much storage space does that eat up? All of it?

    • 5ubieee@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 years ago

      decided to check out of curiosity and couldn’t see the pref from the article listed in my config (im on 116.0), ~i’d imagine theres a chance it would work if manually adding that pref and setting to true but i have no idea where i could test it since i don’t use any sites that would need that pref to work.~

      wonder if user agent spoofing would work, probably wouldn’t hurt to try that as well

    • M. Orange@beehaw.org
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      2 years ago

      They dropped it in the desktop browser after a while, but I think you can do it with an extension or something.

  • Im28xwa@lemdro.idEnglish
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    2 years ago

    What in the actual fuck is this, thank you for bringing this up I will never use an Adobe product ever

  • milkytoast@kbin.social
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    2 years ago

    the only thing I’ll accept using one of those browsers for is installing a new OS on my phone, as ff just does not support that. aside from that, idc

  • Wojtek@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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    2 years ago

    What are people using to edit/sign PDFs. Adobe is a nightmare and I’d rather use anything else

      • argv_minus_one@beehaw.orgBannedEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Inkscape now supports multi-page documents! The PDF importer was also recently overhauled.

        Inkscape at this point is the “hold my beer” of PDF editors, able to edit absolutely anything on the page.

        Only problem is Inkscape can’t import or embed PDF fonts. It can convert text to paths during import, but that’s it.

    • Farias@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Preview on macOS can do it. While it obviously doesn’t help everyone I’m not sure some Mac users realize there’s a built in tool for it

      • Wojtek@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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        2 years ago

        I’ve tried it in preview, it’s just not great. Or maybe I just haven’t mastered it yet… but it never intuitively does what I want it do

        • lol3droflxp@kbin.social
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          2 years ago

          I only ever used preview. I tried Adobe stuff a few times but it was so horribly cluttered. So far preview could do everything I needed.

    • Radiant_sir_radiant@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Happy PDF-XChange user here. Fair pricing for home users / small businesses, great feature set, stable, regular updates that actually improve the product.

      Actually had complaints of less-technical users at work when by some weird accident the Adobe product returned (sneakily bundled installer?) or when a Windows decided that PDFs are to be opened with Edge now, because the users wanted PDF-XChange back. Normally users either don’t notice or don’t care.

    • WarmSoda@lemm.ee
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      2 years ago

      I don’t get why PDFs are so hard to open. The format has been around for ever. Why does Adobe have such a grasp on it, and why isn’t it as common to open as a txt?

      There are free programs that’ll open it, but it’s few and far between. It’s a pain in the ass to find one.

      Edit.
      I looked it up. Adobe created PDF, but:

      Anyone may create applications that can read and write PDF files without having to pay royalties to Adobe Systems; Adobe holds patents to PDF, but licenses them for royalty-free use in developing software complying with its PDF specification.

    • renard_roux@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      2 years ago

      On all my Macs, Preview is set as the default app for handling PDFs, and I use it for signing, adding text, rearranging and deleting pages; works flawlessly. Fuck Acrobat Reader / Pro.

      If I need to do something more complicated, I’ll open it in Illustrator.

    • blindsight@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Foxit Reader has decent PDF editing built in. I use it all the time. I think they call the pen mode “comments”, but you can also load your signature as an image file.

      The only time I use (pirated) Adobe Acrobat is when I need to edit existing content in PDFs, like fixing layout or editing text.

    • WestwardWind@lemm.ee
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      2 years ago

      I have used Foxit/Phantom both personally and professionally for years now with no complaints

      • livus@kbin.social
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        2 years ago

        Thanks, might switch. I’m tired of Adobe running ten tons of crap in the background.

    • djsaskdja@endlesstalk.org
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      2 years ago

      I’d stop using the web if this happened everywhere. I do use a user agent switcher or Ungoogled Chromium in a pinch though.

      • Sanjana @infosec.pub
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        2 years ago

        Google is worrying me with their ever-encroaching strategy of limiting internet access through DRM

      • Neve8028@lemm.ee
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        2 years ago

        Genuinely can’t see a future where people collectively ditch adobe. They make industry standard products that companies, educational institutions, professionals, etc… buy.

        • Pat@lemmy.ca
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          2 years ago

          I used to be responsible for the app portfolio in a 1000+ user company, and every 3 years or so I would go back out to the market and try hard to replace Adobe, just for PDF operations. Couldn’t do it because so many products were integrated with them, often in ways we could not reproduce with other products. The best we could do would be to pay for a different product for 1/3 of the cost for Adobe, and then still end up having to carry a significant number of Adobe licenses for cases when integration failed with the other product. No-win situation, and just easier to stay with the evil we knew.

          I hate them.

          • Thrashy@beehaw.org
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            2 years ago

            In the AEC field we have Bluebeam as a de facto industry standard for PDFs, and it’s vastly superior to Acrobat in every way for our typical use cases. I imagine it’s a bit harder in other industries, though.

      • Chemical Wonka@discuss.tchncs.de
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        2 years ago

        Unfortunately the majority of users or don’t care about privacy or don’t want to spend time to learn how to use other tools and for extremely professional tasks Adobe suite is not easily replaceable.

  • kbity@kbin.social
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    2 years ago

    The NHS’ virtual appointment service in the UK doesn’t support Firefox either, only Chrome, Safari and Edge. The dark days of “please view this website in Internet Explorer 6” are creeping closer to the present again. I hate the modern internet.

  • JBloodthorn@kbin.social
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    2 years ago

    What’s extra stupid about these, is most of the time just using a user agent switcher to make the site think you’re on chrome or opera makes it work just fine.

    • infamousbelgian@waste-of.space
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      2 years ago

      I do understand it. These are browsers that they decided during development that are not supported. Not supported means not tested by a full QA team for months. And users are generally stupid, soba simple warning (use at your own risk) is something that does not work.

      So they decide to just not support the other browsers.

      To be clear, I am definitely not a fan of Adobe of this mechanism, just explaining.

        • boonhet@lemm.ee
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          2 years ago

          You can say browser X may cause issues on the website, but people will still complain that browser X doesn’t work properly and demand you to fix whatever issue they’re having.

        • _MusicJunkie@beehaw.orgEnglish
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          2 years ago

          People don’t read warnings. They will still swamp your support department with tickets despite being told their setup is unsupported.

    • Big P@feddit.uk
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      2 years ago

      I would be surprised if eveything works correctly. Generally they don’t just decide that something isn’t supported for no reason

      • JBloodthorn@kbin.social
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        2 years ago

        Sometimes it’s as simple as something like “firefox doesn’t support import maps”, but now they do (in 108+) but nobody has the time or inclination to go back and validate that the site now works in firefox.

  • Riyria@sopuli.xyz
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    2 years ago

    Adobe reactivated my subscription without my permission and now won’t refund me. They have records of my subscription being cancelled in May but can’t explain why I was suddenly billed again in August.

      • Riyria@sopuli.xyz
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        2 years ago

        I’m going to try Adobe customer service one more time, but this may be the route I go. I always try to avoid chargebacks because it can lead to stuff just getting sent to collections which is more harmful than eating the payment.

    • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.cc
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      2 years ago

      CS6 is nice, i use it as a student. Then by the time i wanna buy it they went subscription only for new version.

      Luckily i’m not in the industry that require it.

  • Stefen Auris@pawb.socialEnglish
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    2 years ago

    I don’t understand why Adobe was allowed to survive as a company when Flash player had like 500 security vulnerabilities daily.