Every two days a new thread with hundreds of comments of a bunch of liberals doing the same fucking talking points about the election. It doesn’t even fucking matter but so many people are just so enthusiastic to be hand-wringing or smug or whatever their preferred flavor of insufferable is, presumably mostly because they’ve been acculturated by liberal media to the idea that Trump is the apocalypse despite the fact that we already saw how Trump bumbles his way through a term!

It’s just so bad, you can’t talk about it anywhere there without someone leaping down your throat to say the same shit you’ve heard before.

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      really awesome system you got there where you spin a roulette wheel to determine the make-up of the 9 god kings who decree all laws and are appointed for life, and it’s entirely random who gets appointed based on when they die

      definitely not an inherent issue with your entire system, just a single bad election to that fascist Drumpf ruined everything

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      our democratically elected government

      The US is a democracy in the same way as when only land-owning, white men could vote, or as Israel is now.

      I’m sure the people who it benefits love to call it “democracy”.

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          You should have learned by now that representative democracy is not a meaningful practice, given its track record of almost no successes.

          Also, you literally do coups - including against democratically elected governments - all the time, and don’t have an issue with that.

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          The implication behind “democracy” is an equal vote democracy, which the US is objectively not. Which was the whole point of my comment. You can call us a democracy in the same way a slave state is a democracy if you’re white. Our representative elections are not democratic, and individual wealthy people have an outsized vote over millions of people.

          You didn’t understand what I was saying, are too much of a moron to understand that, and think that it’s me who isn’t smart enough.

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          I would ask you, “when was the last time you voted for a policy and got it?” which would be “never” for me, but I don’t know your politics, so I’ll just point out that 70% of Americans want single-payer healthcare but most politicians side with the insurance companies for some mysterious reason, and there’s nothing we can do about it as an electorate because our only option is to vote “lesser evil” every few years or boycott the elections and watch other people vote lesser evil.

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      Marx grasped this essence of capitalist democracy splendidly when, in analyzing the experience of the Commune, he said that the oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class shall represent and repress them in parliament!

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      Democracy for an insignificant minority, democracy for the rich — that is the democracy of capitalist society.

      https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch05.htm

      you’re embarrassing yourself

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          Everyone is biased, dipshit. Including you and the sources you get your news from. Not understanding something as fundamental as this makes your smugness even more embarrassing than it already is. Keep it up.

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          Tagline material.

          Marxists.org is a collection of works on political theory. They aren’t really biased beyond wanting to preserve the works and provide easy access to them.

          The link is to something written by Lenin in 1917, referencing something Marx wrote earlier. I suppose you could say that Lenin and Marx were biased in the sense that they had strong views but that isn’t a valid reason to dismiss everything they ever said, and that ignorant perspective is just going to get you laughed at here.

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          Pointing to an obviously biased website is crazy

          Ableist concern trolling shit aside, what is your “nonbiased” source, asshole?

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          They’re quoting Marx which is being hosted on marxists.org, you brick.

          Also everyone is biased, objective reporting is literally impossible. Learn how to do source critique and text analysis instead of just gargling the same thought-killing propaganda you’ve been regurgitating your whole life

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          marxists.org is an archive of hundreds of thousands of texts by influential sociologists, historians, political economists and political theorists. It’s not our “facts” it’s an argument in the form of a written text. Perhaps you should sit down and take the time to read sometimes and maybe learn something.

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          Want to come over, I’ll read it to you directly from a book?

          space cadet

          noun

          1. One who shows difficulty in grasping or responding appropriately to serious or necessary concerns; a spacy person.

          good bit tbh, sorry anyone wasted their time responding to you

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          Tell me you’re an “enlightened centrist” without telling me you’re an enlightened centrist… bateman-business-card

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      If we are splitting hairs than it’s a representative democracy, sorry I had to spell it out for you, but you should have learned this in 3rd grade

      jagoff smuglord

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      Democratically elected

      Trump lost the popular vote, but still got in. Bush with the Florida thing.
      Gerrymandering.
      The immense amount of ratfucking you’ve seen during primaries.
      The incredibly low voter participation.
      The fact that the government does not care what you think.
      And we’re not even getting into the suppression that is done.

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      Thank you for demonstrating my point. Please pick another thread to go cry about the Capitol riot in, it’s not like there’s a lack of liberal and more-highly-federated (and thereby more liberal) instances to do that in.