• IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    If any other country like China or Russia blockaded a country to the point where it would cause a collapse … we’d probably start WWIII in defence.

    US does it and it’s just taken as a normal part of world politics and perfectly acceptable.

    What the hell did Cuba do to deserve this? They had a difference of opinion and they didn’t want to be taken advantage of … they’ve since had to be literally starved to death because of it.

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      2 months ago

      An embargo is not a blockade.

      The embargo excludes food and medicine, and, in fact, Cuba has, previously, explicitly rejected unconditional offers of US aid.

      Cuba’s core problems are not due to the embargo, as much as the Cuban government and the terminally online left would like to peddle that narrative.

      The embargo is stupid, pointless, and immoral. But it’s not what’s causing Cuba’s current problems in any significant degree.

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        2 months ago

        The state-wide weed markets are another example of what happens when the US government decides your business shouldn’t be recognized by banks abroad.

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        2 months ago

        Call it what you want but the effect is still the same.

        Yes Cuba can trade with whoever they want in the world … the US just makes it so difficult and complicated that no one wants to be bothered.

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          2 months ago

          Is that why Cuba’s biggest trade partner is that notable enemy of America, Canada?

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            Yes but the amount of trade that happens is so miniscule that it doesn’t do much for their economy.

            It’s like having someone pin you to the ground, tie up your hands and feet and rest their knee on your neck and then ask why you’re having a hard time getting up on your own

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              2 months ago

              Yes but the amount of trade that happens is so miniscule that it doesn’t do much for their economy.

              Bruh, Cuban-Canadian trade is worth over a billion annually. They’re one of Canada’s largest trade partners.

              I guess the Netherlands and Spain are also inconsequential, and China is, of course, holding back on TRULY trading with Cuba out of fear for US sanctions despite the fact that China is already trading with Cuba on a massive scale.

              Cuba was the third richest country in Latin America before the fall of the SovUnion. Could it possibly be that their economy was built on a house of cards and they haven’t meaningfully shifted since it fell?

              At some point you have to accept that the embargo, while wrong, is just not even close to core to the problems Cuba faces.

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      Errrm Russia is literally in the process of attacking a neighbouring country right now. They are tying their very best to make this country collapse with things far worse than sanctions, and no one has started WW3 yet.

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      What the hell did Cuba do to deserve this?

      The embargo? Seized a bunch of American-owned property in the revolution. The US said “you can nationalize it, but you gotta pay for it”. The Cuban government said no, and the US said “then we won’t do business with you”.

      Lot of property owned by Americans out there in the world. Makes people think twice about treating it as a free cash grab bag if the last group to try it regretted it.

      Also, as someone else pointed out, it’s an embargo, not a blockade, which would be forcibly preventing them from doing business with anyone else, like, parking warships offshore and not letting anything in or out. A blockade would be an act of war. Embargoes are not.