He got me to read the Manifesto and would have hours’ long debates with our social-democratic roommate and now this. It’s really shaking me up a bit.

He is on the whole defeatist ‘nothing will fundamentally shake the imperial machine so might as well pick the wardog with better domestic policies’ tip. I want to get through to him but I am getting stuck.

For example:

i also refuse to not vote my conscience but i figured this time its not like doing this abstract process to pick if id prefer -100 points vs -200 points is gonna matter that much if i genuinely believe itll even be slightly better under kamala i might as well

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  • Barx [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Sometimes it is useful to talk in electoral terms because someone is a liberal and cannot understand politics (yet) without it. And going all the way through the logic of how it doesn’t matter takes a very long time

    But this person is apparently not a super lib so I dunno