Summary

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and French President Emmanuel Macron held a call to discuss the potential implications of Donald Trump’s return to the U.S. presidency for Europe.

The leaders pledged to strengthen cooperation for a “more united, stronger, more sovereign Europe” in light of this possibility. Macron emphasized a commitment to European sovereignty while maintaining cooperation with the U.S. Additionally, German and French defense ministers plan to meet to coordinate on defense policies.

Trump’s ambiguous stance on Russia’s war in Ukraine and his critical view of NATO burden-sharing raise concerns in Europe about future U.S.-Europe relations.

  • merc@sh.itjust.works
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    28 days ago

    Everyone knows where he stands.

    I strongly suspect that isn’t true. I think anti-Trump people know where he stands, but I bet a lot of pro-Trump people are about to be in for a big surprise.

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      28 days ago

      Ah, yes…the old “leopards are eating people’s faces, but how was I supposed to know that it’d be my face?” bit.

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        28 days ago

        I heard yesterday about how a lot of Imams in Michigan posed for selfies with him.

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          27 days ago

          Listened to an interview, shortly after Binden stepped out, with a young Muslim Dem guy who was trying to drum up support in the DNC. He, and the people working with him, were really concerned about the alienation of the Muslim voting block. From what he was saying, it seems the community would usually vote Dem because the GOP are really hostile towards Muslims. But most traditionalist Muslims are hard C conservative, and on the surface level have a lot in common with the “Evangelical” nutjobs that seems to be running the show. He found some success in gaining wider support, but not enough to get a stance change on Gaza or to try and keep the Muslim voters with the Dems.

          All that said…it wasn’t, according to exit polls, the Muslim voters that really killed them on this run. The biggest shift, from what I understand, was with the Latino community. And you might think “Well shit, Trump shit talks Latinos all the time, he’ll there was that shit he was saying about Puerto Rico not too long ago!”
          But with any large and generalised community, there’s a lot of “in group hatred”. There’s always going to be an “other.”
          “So what if Trump hates Puerto Ricans, I’m Cuban, his hate of this group won’t affect me…”
          And this is how leopards ate their faces.
          It’s the human condition to focus on the bad bit that’s most recent and to assume that you’ll be doing great in the future…