• magnetosphere@fedia.io
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    12 days ago

    Not even in office yet, and already making threats.

    I’d like to see Europe tell Vance to fuck off. I suspect that if Europe gives in now, the Trump administration will make this same threat every time Europe does something he doesn’t like.

    Trump will be an unreliable NATO ally anyway, so it isn’t much of a risk on Europe’s part.

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      12 days ago

      And this was from September so not even elected yet.

      Tbh it kinda sounds like they just want to leave NATO regardless.

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        11 days ago

        I get the same feeling, too. They’re just looking for an excuse to ditch Europe - perhaps as a sacrifice to Putin.

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          11 days ago

          Ofc they won’t SAY that - they’ll talk about “what a fantastic savings it will be, to not spend that money”, and probably they’ll work up gently to the point of sending US citizens to become meat shields like the North Koreans and so many others lately. But at each stage, it will always be what “we” wanted to do - it’s “our” idea to do it, I tell you!?

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          11 days ago

          Do you not understand what the word “dictator” means? He told us what he’s going to be. Congress is irrelevant, and if it continues to exist, it will be to rubber stamp, at best.

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        10 days ago

        If I recall correctly countries can’t withdrawl from the UN without their approval

        Problem is though that the un-united dystopia of america could cause issues in the UN

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        11 days ago

        The US pulling out of the UN would allow them to pass all sorts of cool stuff, like recognizing and admitting Palestine and calling for a ceasefire, recognizing the universal rights of children, and condemning the far-right, all of which the US used its veto power to stop against overwhelming support on the other side.

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      12 days ago

      It’s going to be a hell of a long 4 years, for America and the rest of the world. Damn.