We all know the saying: scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds…

I expected to see a bunch of random strangers on social media complaining about the election and suddenly pretending to care about human dignity.

But it hurts to see family, friends, and trusted content creators going down pipelines not dissimilar to Red MAGA pipelines. For as much as they hate Trump supporters, liberals are becoming just like them.

There is one creator on TikTok named Seema R (@artlust) who I occasionally watched. I guess she has a career and education as an art museum curator. Occasionally she dips into political topics, and I never had any major issue with her thoughts on those.

I was going to share a specific video of hers from today, but it has been deleted in the past hour or two. She was practically foaming at the mouth about nonvoters, calling them anti-semites and mocking them for complaining about “gEnOcIdE” as if that is some childish complaint.

(Edit: Here’s a video with a similar vibe as the deleted one: https://www.tiktok.com/@artlust/video/7435258288767290654)

The shock of this video gave me a huge sense of dread. I think the election of Trump finally set in, but more than that, I finally let go of some silly hope I had that Trump’s re-election would wake up liberals and realize the commies were right. But from all appearances, the exact opposite is happening. Liberals are so fuckin mad about Trump that they’re taking it out on the commies. It’s going to be a nightmare for the next four years and I fear that America is far more defenseless to rabid fascism than I thought.

    • SadArtemis [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      8 days ago

      Honestly IMO (as a Klanadian POC) while I have to agree on some level, though I also don’t think it’s quite as stark as to say they will “always succumb to fascism,” etc (however the nature of empire certainly makes it more often that way than not). As a generalization the 3rd worldists are almost always right, but yet I think it’s important to not go all-in 3rd-worldist (to what extent “pure” 3rd-worldists who just dismiss the imperial cores altogether exist). Defeatism, even in the cores, cannot ever be afforded, and is also not wholly correct.

      Definitely, anyone in the west with the skills, resources, or simply personal energy to offer would be more useful to the cause and humanity (IMO) in the global south, that said, if they were so inclined as to move (IMO).

        • SadArtemis [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
          11·
          7 days ago

          but can I at least say that the POC living in a western country will not be these revolutionaries that can be easily spoken to about anti imperialism and fp?

          Can I say that those POC, despite having their own valid criticisms and experiences with systemic racism, may not always be receptive to anti-imperialism and solidarity with the global south? That they might actually support imperialism if it means they stand to gain something, even if it means throwing the global south under the bus?

          Absolutely, I mean honestly while the “always succumb to fascism” bit was extreme, the frustrations that led to saying it are wholly valid and sadly more correct than not (that’s not to say it is correct however).

          Frankly a shit-ton of POC in the west suck utter ass. A shit-ton of people in general wherever, but the west basically collects compradors and aspiring compradors from wherever (and some, I assume, are good people- jk jk also as someone coming from an immigrant family and technically being a immigrant myself, most or a sizable portion likely well over 50% are decent, whether they remain so or not or get co-opted by the pressures of empire is another matter).

    • Lussy [any, hy/hym]@hexbear.netEnglish
      11·
      8 days ago

      ‘See, Black people can be racist too!!!’

      That’s you right now

      I was one questioning your generalizations. I’m a 3rd world immigrant Burger citizen, who grew up in an American colony. You’re handling this matter very indelicately.

      Taking some rabidly online redditor here, deranged TikToker there to sully any sort of solidarity between races that usually tend to have solidarity isn’t helpful at all. This TikToker herself is demonizing other South Asians for prioritizing the Palestinian issue and here you are using her to broadly brush BIPOC as majority racist (insane), anti-immigrant (insane), and anti-Palestinian.

      • glimmer_twin [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        8·
        7 days ago

        ‘See, Black people can be racist too!!!’

        Tbf that characterises what the other poster is saying along the lines of some “reverse-racism” right wing accusation. The person you’re responding to isn’t accusing individual POC of holding racist views, but pointing out that large numbers of them seem content or even gleeful to participate in the racist (sometimes to the point of genocide) system of US imperialism. It’s a left wing rather than liberal interpretation of racism.

        • Lussy [any, hy/hym]@hexbear.netEnglish
          6·
          7 days ago

          Pretty sure 140 million people voted for all of those things and only a minority of them were PoC.

          Your arguments either go in thousand degrees of abstraction or massive generalizations. There is literally zero difference between the libs making racist complaints about latino voters voting for Trump and you complaining about dark people not voting for him.

          Either acknowledge that the entirety of America and its voting citizenry are complicit in the subjugation of the third world or don’t single out PoC voters.

    • Hexboare [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      7 days ago

      I don’t think these sweeping generalisations are helpful. Saying “these people” and that they “will always succumb to fascism” is pretty gross.