GM confirms $130,000 Cadillac Escalade IQ won’t have Apple CarPlay or Android Auto | GM said it was going to drop Apple CarPlay and Android Auto in all vehicles, and now, that includes Cadillac’s l…::Cadillac confirms its new Google built-in infotainment leaves no room for Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. Instead, Google built-in is running the 55-inch infotainment screen.
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I’m not the target audience for this to begin with, but I refuse to own a car ever again that doesn’t have Android Auto. What a bunch of anti-consumer bullshit. What are the odds GM starts charging a subscription fee to access apps on these vehicles?
I refuse to own a car that doesn’t have a DIN slot for my own tech.
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It is unlikely that I will ever buy something newer than 2005. I’m in a 1994 right now.
What modern vehicles still have that? Most of the cars I’ve had lately and aren’t even modern have proprietary shit
I have a 2016 Jeep which is relatively modern and installed an aftermarket head unit.
2016 model year is 8 years old + now…
Lmao… i didn’t even realise how old my 2012 is
cries in a 2007 Yaris
I thought they already announced they would be targeting their infotainment as a subscription based service.
A quick duck duck go: https://www.pymnts.com/subscriptions/2022/gm-rolling-out-dozens-of-new-subscription-offerings/
GM is also competing for a piece of the $5.5 billion connected commercial vehicle market, as PYMNTS reported recently.
The company offers a fleet telematics solution called OnStar Vehicle Insights that features a vehicle locator, vehicle health, driver behavior, performance insights, daily trip summaries and remote commands. This last tool lets drivers lock, unlock and remote start the vehicle from a website or app.
I would rather have none of that in my vehicle, thanks.
I like my vehicles like I like my software - buy once for the features that exist now; upgrade when there is a compelling reason to do so. This rent-seeking subscription bullshit is crap.
I think the idea is to get you to pay for data for your car. Tesla is often cited as doing the same thing (eg no phone projection, use the built in), but their unlimited data price is super reasonable at like $100/year. I am not sure what GM is charging, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s more.
I am not sure what GM is charging
To be honest, I don’t really care what it costs I wouldn’t pay. No car manufacturer in the world has ever produced a car with a good mapping system. I can’t imagine why anyone would pay anything at all for a product that’s worse than the free one in their phone.
Yep agree. Even if it’s super reasonable now, just wait until they’ve got everyone. It’s the enshittification of the auto industry.
And you can add horrible UIs to that list too, that GM system looks like ass
I’ve got a Dodge Journey they have horrible looking icons from 1995 with a shit looking red backdrop
Yeah but I also already pay for a phone and am tired of being nickel and dimed at every opportunity. The price of the service isn’t necessarily the issue – it’s the fact that there is a price to begin with.
Totally agree. Don’t tell me more reasons why I want to pay like, “your car is a hotspot now!”. I can already do that with my phone. There’s no need to have a data plan per device in my mind if you already have a modem in your pocket.
I agree. It’s a line in the sand at this point.
I remember back in the 90s looking at these super cool CD players people and installed. I’m sure the nice ones were insanely expensive. CarPlay/Android Auto is a better UI than literally any other option ever put in a car. End of story.
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Ladies and gentlemen… FROM the company that brought us “Cadillac CUE” (all-capacitive-buttons information controls)…
…Something nobody wants!
I worked at a Cadillac dealership and I absolutely HATED the cars that had these. Barely functioned in the winter time
Had that in my '17 CTS, the screen did it’s normal “I’m in control now” thing of random touch inputs until I finally had enough. Bought an aftermarket screen without the gel layer and replaced it, it was much better than OEM.
Does anyone actually use either of those though? It’s always been more easy and convenient for me to just use my own phone.
Android auto IS using your own phone.
A crippled version of my phone.
What exactly are you doing on your phone while driving besides listening to music and/or using maps?
Listening to YouTube, playing music from my sd card. Changing routing instructions. Adding stops along the way. Avoiding highways, allowing highways. Asking what the exchange rate between the euro abd the dollar is. Asking if European chickens are smaller than American chickens. (And probably other things)
Typing in maps addresses that are too complex for the voice recognition to understand.
You should still be able to do that on the car touchscreen just like the old Tom Tom etc…
They also forget that sometimes there is a passenger wanting to do this, it’s not always just the driver in the car.
If there’s a passenger, at least in my car, the system recognizes it and let’s one type with the touchscreen.
Lack of AA isn’t the problem, it’s the 130k for that hideous monstrosity.
Will be interesting to see how many of these they actually sell. I’m guessing it will flop and the factory will be retooled to build a different EV in a year. Same with Hummer line. These models are wayyyyy too niche.
I don’t think the market for these is consumers. I think it’s more targeted towards brands/companies. Suburbans are the “go to” vehicle for a lot of upscale valet services and I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lot of those go electric to save on costs.
I mean the 2023 ESV sport platinum is MSRP 108k and you get 14/16mpg. So I mean if you were already looking at one and you now get 450miles per charge it may be worth it.
Definitely be interesting to see how they do.
Oh my, since when do cars have HDMI in? That’s real luxury.
my friend has a ‘15 Honda Fit with a factory HDMI input - apparently it can be used when parked to project to the infotainment screen but I haven’t seen that feature used or on another vehicle since
Not that I needed any more, but I’ll take reason I’ll never own a GM for $5000 Alex.
55” infotainment screen, in a fucking vehicle? That’s what I have in my living room. 🤯
with an aspect ratio of 20:1 across the entire dash.
yeah but it’s like 5" high.
No problem, there are other cars to choose from.
Back to Bluetooth and Google maps on your phone after the free data period ends. Such a bad move for consumers.
Y’know what would be great?
An industry standard system that would work properly with any type of phone, tablet or other mobile device.
Preferably one that doesn’t run like shit.
And while we’re at it, require physical nobs/buttons for basic navigation/climate control for safety purposes.
And while we’re at it, require physical nobs/buttons for basic navigation/climate control for safety purposes.
AbsoFuckingLutely
nobs
This made me laugh more than it should’ve.
Tons of hate in here, and yet the same people complaining about the lack of AA or ACP don’t bring up the same complains with Tesla or Rivian or Lucid or a few other brands that don’t support it.
I’ve seen plenty of complains about Tesla not supporting android auto
Personally, Tesla’s support for phone connections doesn’t even come into play because there’s plenty of other technical and administrative reasons to avoid them.
Also, based on descriptions of AA I’m seeing in this thread, it sounds like I’d rather just continue hooking up my phone’s audio to my car’s sound system and mounting it on the dash than use AA.
GM’s alternative solution doesn’t interest me whatsoever and it wouldn’t surprise me if it comes with a horrible UX as most companies that make something else but try to also make software suck at it and include other BS meant to make them money rather than improve the experience. It will add no value to me but I’m sure it will add to the cost.
Because this thread is specifically about the escalade not having it.
Perhaps because there are bigger complaints to be made about those brands.
I do. There are a few things that prevent me from ever considering a Tesla, and Android Auto is one of them.
I still don’t understand why car brands don’t just use Android Automotive anyway. Most native infotainment systems in cars still look and feel like they’re from the early 2000s.
That 55-inch interface they’re showing off really looks like some weird 2006-ish concept.
Edit: Apparently, it’s running “Google built-in” which means that this particular system is based on Android Automotive OS and it’s just running some proprietary launcher on top.
I wonder how long before they stop pushing updates to it
Subscription based for a few years z then they’ll just drop it
We all know that the look of the interface will stay the same throughout the lifetime of the car. At least with CarPlay or Android Auto, it represents the interface of your phone. CarPlay is a hard requirement for my vehicles.
Nissan stopped updating the navigation for my 2016 car last year.
So… Pretty shit
I remember when updates to cars were called product recalls and they only happened in exceptional circumstances.
That’s implying that they’ll push updates at all
Call me crazy, but the way the bottom control screen is off centered from the central nav/infotainment bit above it looks horrible and I can’t imagine buying such an expensive car with such an annoying design.
We’ll, that’s a move.
General Motos, you are a bold one.
