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I also voted for Clinton in 2016 and as a result knew that Democrats were gonna blame the left when moving to the right failed, just like they did in 2016. Democrats should either blame the Republicans they tried to court for not turning out for them, or blame themselves for idiotically expecting that courting Republicans again would work.
This isn’t 1992. Moving to the right hit a wall 8 years ago, and centrists are too fucking pigheaded to admit it.
YOUR party lost by trying to be Republican-lite and not running on more progressive policies. I don’t care what you consider yourself (any more than you care about me).
It’d be cool if we could have productive conversations here but I think it’s becoming very apparent why the Democratic party lost and especially why “the left” will never make any progress in the U.S., the only firing squad the left can muster forms in a circle.
And yet there are more than enough that you expect the Democratic party to bend the knee to you?
I consider myself a progressive. The genocide in Palestine is a big problem for me, and I resent being lumped in with liberals simply because I understand politics and math enough to vote for Harris instead of aiding in Palestine’s destruction.
But I also understand that progressives are a small minority of voters in the US, and am not deluded enough to believe that Democrats will pander to me when it makes no tangible difference come election time.
It doesn’t matter how many people agree with progressive policies when you ask them, when they don’t fucking vote and aren’t doing anything whatsoever to organize and win elections down-ballot.
Where is the Green Party? They’ve already vanished, and we won’t see or hear anything from them for 4 years.
Why is it that progressives can’t seem to organize a real political party if there are so many of us?
And yet there are more than enough that you expect the Democratic party to bend the knee to you?
They had no problem bending the knee to Republicans. Republicans didn’t turn out to vote for them and you blame progressives for that strategy failing.
I consider myself a progressive. The genocide in Palestine is a big problem for me
What complete and utter horseshit. You’ve spent the past months cheerleading everything the Democratic Party did to support your boy Netanyahu and screaming abuse at anyone who dared to suggest that they even think about slowing that support. Now that your strategy of “support genocide for the love of it” has FAILED to peel off any Republican votes, you blame progressives.
I resent being lumped in with liberals
I’m not lumping you in with liberals. I’m lumping you in with Republicans who want Democrats to keep moving right and losing.
But I also understand that progressives are a small minority of voters in the US, and am not deluded enough to believe that Democrats will pander to me when it makes no tangible difference come election time.
Democrats pandered to Republicans during this last election cycle. They lost. Republicans will never vote for Democrats. Democrats would rather pander to them than give progressives the time of day.
If Democrats don’t consider progressives a significant enough constituency to listen to, they don’t get to blame us when they lose. Democrats should blame themselves for chasing Republican votes they’re never gonna get.
It doesn’t matter how many people agree with progressive policies when you ask them
It certainly doesn’t when no party listens.
Where is the Green Party?
I don’t care. I never supported them.
Why is it that progressives can’t seem to organize a real political party if there are so many of us?
Why are you blaming progressives for Democrats’ loss when there aren’t enough of them to be worth listening to?
And stop lumping yourself in with progressives. Progressives don’t cheerlead genocide. Progressives don’t advocate moving to the right even after it loses elections.
Democrats bent over backwards to represent Republicans last election. It cost us all dearly. Why don’t you want them to stop?
“Your” party didn’t even show up, why would anyone listen to them?
Edit: hey at least a couple of you learned how to vote! Maybe try doing that irl and not just on the internet!
Progressives don’t have a party that even considers representing them.
Progressives turned out to vote for the obviously less dangerous to America candidate.
Terminally online internet leftists sat at home in their basements and want feel like they’re revolutionaries.
Start a revolution champ, we’re all waiting.
Yes, we did. And we also warned that moving to the right was going to lose Harris the election. We were right.
So, you did go vote for Harris or didn’t?
I voted for Harris.
I also voted for Clinton in 2016 and as a result knew that Democrats were gonna blame the left when moving to the right failed, just like they did in 2016. Democrats should either blame the Republicans they tried to court for not turning out for them, or blame themselves for idiotically expecting that courting Republicans again would work.
This isn’t 1992. Moving to the right hit a wall 8 years ago, and centrists are too fucking pigheaded to admit it.
So I guess your original comment should’ve been “MY party lost by listening to centrists” shouldn’t it?
They’re the party whose candidates I reluctantly vote for.
Not my party. They don’t want to be my party. They want to be the second Republican party.
YOUR party lost by trying to be Republican-lite and not running on more progressive policies. I don’t care what you consider yourself (any more than you care about me).
It’d be cool if we could have productive conversations here but I think it’s becoming very apparent why the Democratic party lost and especially why “the left” will never make any progress in the U.S., the only firing squad the left can muster forms in a circle.
And yet there are more than enough that you expect the Democratic party to bend the knee to you?
I consider myself a progressive. The genocide in Palestine is a big problem for me, and I resent being lumped in with liberals simply because I understand politics and math enough to vote for Harris instead of aiding in Palestine’s destruction.
But I also understand that progressives are a small minority of voters in the US, and am not deluded enough to believe that Democrats will pander to me when it makes no tangible difference come election time.
It doesn’t matter how many people agree with progressive policies when you ask them, when they don’t fucking vote and aren’t doing anything whatsoever to organize and win elections down-ballot.
Where is the Green Party? They’ve already vanished, and we won’t see or hear anything from them for 4 years.
Why is it that progressives can’t seem to organize a real political party if there are so many of us?
Touch grass
They had no problem bending the knee to Republicans. Republicans didn’t turn out to vote for them and you blame progressives for that strategy failing.
What complete and utter horseshit. You’ve spent the past months cheerleading everything the Democratic Party did to support your boy Netanyahu and screaming abuse at anyone who dared to suggest that they even think about slowing that support. Now that your strategy of “support genocide for the love of it” has FAILED to peel off any Republican votes, you blame progressives.
I’m not lumping you in with liberals. I’m lumping you in with Republicans who want Democrats to keep moving right and losing.
Democrats pandered to Republicans during this last election cycle. They lost. Republicans will never vote for Democrats. Democrats would rather pander to them than give progressives the time of day.
If Democrats don’t consider progressives a significant enough constituency to listen to, they don’t get to blame us when they lose. Democrats should blame themselves for chasing Republican votes they’re never gonna get.
It certainly doesn’t when no party listens.
I don’t care. I never supported them.
Why are you blaming progressives for Democrats’ loss when there aren’t enough of them to be worth listening to?
And stop lumping yourself in with progressives. Progressives don’t cheerlead genocide. Progressives don’t advocate moving to the right even after it loses elections.
Democrats bent over backwards to represent Republicans last election. It cost us all dearly. Why don’t you want them to stop?