“Farmer” and “White”. Name a more American duo
ETA: I’ll take the downvotes on this one. Shower your disapproval. Fuck this lady and her leopard eaten face.
I don’t really feel happy for anybody in this case. Everybody loses. We can only hope that this person learned their lesson.
Absolutely agreed - her situation is a shit one, and I hope she learned her lesson. She chose her journey, though, in the face of all the contrary evidence.
Rules for thee, but not for me.
The Only Moral Abortion is My Own.
Classic FAFO
I love that they referred her to an anti-abortion crisis center, because there’s a 99% chance they’ll just tell her the same “pro-life” garbage she’s been spewing and send her ass home.
Remember, God makes no mistakes 🤗
I really do hate myself for a lack of sympathy in this situation, but these people need to experience what they’re doing to everyone else.
What’s sad is that people who agree with her won’t see the threat to her life as a valid reason either. They don’t know her so they don’t care for her. They’ll lump her in with the people they torment outside of Planned Parenthood regularly.
Just another woman who spread her legs and is too cowardly to accept the will of god.
I’ll be honest, I’m burned out. I need a break from morons and their stories. I really do.
Don’t feel bad. Everyone has limits. At some point you have to worry about yourself and those around you.
I’ve given up on being sympathetic for people who actively try to put these things in place. Like, I’m just jaded now. You voted for this. Congratulations, if this is fatal for your stupid decisions, that’s on you. I’m sympathetic to the people with brains who knew this would happen, those people get my sympathy and caring.
I felt similar about people asking for the vaccine right before they went on the ventilator. Something like 3m people in the US died from Covid.
It’s been estimated that there were at least 232k preventable deaths because people didn’t get vaccinated. That doesn’t include people who suffered permanent damage or long-COVID.
I have accepted that two things can be trust at once: I can be sad for her and amused at the leopard eating her face. I have no problem containing both of those emotions at the same time with hating myself one ounce.
She is the leopard eating her face. I see no reason to be sad. She is dying for her beliefs, a martyr.
It wasn’t part of her plan but (her) God chose her for this. We should she be happy. She should be happy. This is (her) God’s will.
Sometimes people have to get hurt before they learn a lesson.
Sometimes that won’t even work. Maybe just a little cognitive dissonance.
This may get downdooted to oblivion, but I think some of this is human nature. It is abhorrent, and something we need to strive to fix, but it is rather natural for people to think that their own situation is typical – because for them, it is. Every exemplar that a privileged person will have is also a privileged exemplar – until, of course, something like this happens.
And as a further consequence, it is extremely difficult to convince someone that their personal situation is not the norm. Everyone wants to be the main character and ultimately believes that they are.
Not sure what the solution is.
I get your point, but i think people are not consistent with this. Who gets or doesnt get sympathy is entirely emotional.
Ive had people say that refugees are at fault for not getting their papers in order in time and shut be deportet over it and then go on to talk about how for them as citizens it is impossible with the low staffed and inefficient government offices these days.
They willfully ignore that their problems with the bureaucracy could exist for other people too. And we are not even talking about acknowledgong it to be worse. Just simply transferring their life experience onto other people like you describe.
Just for your info: There is no “downdooted to oblivion” on Lemmy. Up- and downvotes for comments have almost no effect.
Yes thanks, and I know that. I’m not going for updoots, but I do like to see them.
Gotta get that dopamine where you can.
Reading.
We need everyone to read more books. A wide variety of stories on a wide variety of topics by a wide variety of authors, all with different backgrounds and ideas. We must read stories that let us temporarily step into the mind and experiences of other people, who aren’t us, to train our brains the ability to understand the plights of others. Books of human stories, as opposed to movies, doom-scrolling TikTok, etc., seems uniquely suited for this kind of training of empathy, because the stories are executed inside our own brains.
I’m willing to bet that these why-are-the-leopards-suddenly-eating-my-face? the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion type people have read distinctly less, or at least far less varied, stories than us who look at them and wonder how it is possible to be so unable to put themselves in the shoes of anyone but themselves.
Provide testing for logic, critical thinking, and empathy in order to vote?
Stop making excuses for stupid people that hold back the progress of mankind?
Oh, I’m not trying to make excuses. Though I can appreciate that it looks like that.
But how do we restrict the stupid people? If we agree that every human gets to take part, then it follows that the stupid will be voting.
I don’t think a litmus test is the answer, since they are extremely easy to misuse. Why not say only landowners should vote? How about only veterans? It’s a dangerous path.
It’s a dangerous path, but does that mean we shouldn’t consider it? Like when you vote you have to correctly identify your candidate’s policies. Or you have to answer some moral question like “rich people are rich because they are in some way inherently better”. Or if you vote anti choice you’re informed “selecting this candidate waives all natal care that may end your fetus’ life including termination of an unviable fetus to save your life, sign your name if you waive your medical rights” if they refuse to sign - your vote don’t count. But a lot of folks are too dumb to get a say in this shit right now. I think the dumbing down of America is 100% orchestrated and intentional, but we need to fix our dumbness for a few generations and get a good level set of “not being a fucking dipshit” before we can trust the random person on the street has more common sense than a bag of mismatched socks.
Or if you vote anti choice you’re informed “selecting this candidate waives all natal care that may end your fetus’ life including termination of an unviable fetus to save your life, sign your name if you waive your medical rights” if they refuse to sign - your vote don’t count.
Even then, that may not work, since people are inclined to think “that’s basically an impossibility, or would only happen if you’re under the influence, or old, it could never happen to me”.
I should be surprised if Farmer expected that she would need abortion care when she voted against it. She likely only realised she would when she found out her pregnancy was non-viable, and tried to get abortion care
then who determines what is logical or empathetic ? i hope ur joking…
Yes, but we can all, even the stupid, agree on a few things, surely?
The poor dear has learned the consequences of voting against her interests far too late. I laughed, but at the same time I’m worried about those who voted in their interests and got fucked over.
This is just like COVID. “Do the bare minimum by staying home and social distancing to save those who cannot fight this fight.” And they all said, “fuck that, I have a TV in 4K but watching church services on it just doesn’t fill me with the holy spirit! Imma risk it!” And then proceed to make the pandemic worse than it had to be while adding another god damned fucking wedge issue into the mix of other wedge issues drummed up by the GOP and ultra wealthy.
Aww man Im all out of fucks
Privileged people do get an exception - they can afford to fly to another state for an abortion.
People like this think they’re part of the in group because they’re white or christian, but the only war is class war. To our rulers we’re all the enemy.
My fucking Trumpy brother in law has this attitude. He lives in the south, votes for Trump, and has a wife, two daughters, and a son. His wife has had a couple of complicated pregnancies that, had they happened now in the place they currently live, could well have resulted in her death. His attitude when asked ‘what if one of your daughters gets raped?’ is to say he can just fly her somewhere else to get an abortion, because he has money. Fuck you, dude.
These are people who don’t want rights, they want privileges. They don’t want equality, they want hierarchy. They can’t say “gimme gimme”, they say “take America back”.
From who? Americans. They want to take what you have. Now that Republicans control the Federal Government they will start to take from each other.
This literally happened during the first Trump administration. Does no Trump supporter remember how they all fought for attention and sucked so badly?
I’m putting that first line in my pocket and gonna use it often. Thanks
All animals are equal but some are more equal.
Two legs good, four legs bad.
Edit: actually think I got that backwards.
Four legs good, two legs bad. And if I remember correctly, there was an amendment for ducks/chickens/etc to be good. Haven’t read that book in like 35 years.
Lol where do geese stand?
Wherever the fuck they want.
This made me laugh a bit harder than expected lol, you’re absolutely right.
I remember the hilarious part where they all campaigned for years on “repealing Obamacare”. Then they had House and Senate majorities + the Presidency, and guess what didn’t get repealed?
It was like that silly video where a dog is barking viciously at another dog, looks super serious and mean, and then the barrier between them is removed and they both act real cool immediately. Then, barrier back in, vicious barking again…
I remember the hilarious part where they all campaigned for years on “repealing Obamacare”. Then they had House and Senate majorities + the Presidency, and guess what didn’t get repealed?
For a while, there were a surprising amount of people who wanted to repeal Obamacare, but keep the Affordable Care Act.
Letting it be called Obamacare was probably a misstep for his administration. It’d likely be less disliked if it wasn’t tied to his name, and they went with something like “Americare: Because America Cares for you”.
Republicans are the ones that nicknamed it that, to try to make their supporters hate it as much as a Black man, even if it hurts them.
2016 - It will be so easy, it’s the worst law in history. We’re going to repeal and replace it in the first week.
2024 - I have concepts of a plan.
How fucking dumb is half the country… At least that fucking dumb.
Really really fucking dumb.
So dumb I can’t help but wonder where I’m that blind
I like to think that they’re all just non-voting leftists - it helps get me through the day.
Many states put a bounty on anyone found to be helping someone travel out of state to get an abortion.
States specifically target liberal groups for harassment and penalty. Conservative physicians will be ignored.
The point of these witch hunts is to torment opposition groups.
I know Texas does this, but do other states?
Texas also has many local abortion travel bans so you can be punished for using their roads while going to the other states if you can’t afford to fly over them.
“First they came for…” you fucking ghouls.
You signed a death warrant for us all and for our children’s supposed future, and your ignorance and cowardice was the ink.
I am rapidly running out of sympathy for such people. I still have some, but I am rapidly running out.
Saving this! Who knows when it might come in handy…
