• Wojwo@lemmy.ml
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    Stem cells? Does he know what party he’s hitched his wagon to?

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      Oh, he knows. They took him on an airplane and made him eat food he had just called “poison” for a photo shoot.

      He couldn’t say no, because of the implication.

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    I actually met this mother fucker in Mexico in 1999, giving a talk on habitat preservation at Lagoona San Ignacio to a bunch of C list celebrities who were there to support the Natural Resource Defense Council and it’s efforts to stop Mitsubishi from building a salt extraction plant in the middle of a gray whale breeding sanctuary (super good cause).

    I was there with a bunch of high school students who’s rich white parents paid for them to go on an expensive ass field trip to watch whales fuck (and do eco protest activist tourism). Coincidentally, the NRDC was there too and they got really excited to invite a bunch of American highschool students to their media shindig.

    RFK Jr. got SUPER drunk and gave a sloppy, rambling, barely coherent speech, thanking people for their generosity. The kids were like “WTF is up with this dude? We’ve never seen grownups act like this!”

    We did get to hear some really cool marine biologists talk about gray whales. Then one of THEM (Roger Payne, I think) got really drunk too and told us “Whales are people damn it! But you can’t publish that! You can’t fucking publish that!”

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    Wait so he is pro psychedelics?

    Huh, it would be really weird if the US legalized acid.

    If maga starts doing acid to own the libs maybe they would finally start questioning things.

    I know I’m wrong, but one can hope can’t they?

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      I would love for this to be true, and I believe there are many benefits to psychedelics…but then I remember the Manson family existed

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      Yeah this is actually really hopeful in a fucked up way. I really hope they legalize psychedelics. They are an extremely effective way to get people to stop voting republican. Worked for me. It woke something up in me that made me realize how selfish and self-serving that entire party is. I’m the only one in my family who no longer votes republican, and also the only one who has tried psychedelics. I think that says a lot.

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    Vaccines are the laziest, lowest effort medicine we have. There is no medical treatment that is more effective for so little actual work on the part of the patient. Which is exactly the kind of medicine we need to have the greatest impact on the population base.

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      Even better than that. You take the medicine and it reduces everyone else’s risk of getting sick, even the ones that refuse to take the medicine. It’s the closest thing we have IRL to literal magic.

      As an immunocompromised person, thank you to everyone who gets vaccinated against communicable disease, you make my world a little less heinous to navigate.

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      People like RFK don’t get it. Also, has anyone seen a fucking microchip in a syringe… ever?

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        You can’t see them without a microscope, duhhh.

        That’s why they’re called MICRO-chips.

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        I think it’s a large variation of a syringe needle that chips our pets, but aside from that monstrously large setup that isn’t even used on humans, no.

        Closest thing I can think of is the capsule sized camera that can be swallowed to collect data as it travels through that long tube that connect mouth to anus. Even then, I’ve never seen that setup used on anyone.

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          Yeah, that’s what I mean. You can feel the microchip under the skin with the real ones. But we’re shown a clear liquid going in. Where are the 'chips?

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    Yeah it’s the FDA keeping people from exercising.

    What he’s missing is that people who want raw milk are already finding ways to get it. And people who understand the safety issues won’t buy it.

    There might be some real self selection and culling of the right wing heard about to happen. Maybe this is for the greater good after all?

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    127TB of data. That’s almost exactly 20 LTO-6 tapes. Good for 30 years when you’ll need to transfer them to something better.

    It’ll cost you less than $300 and it’ll all fit into a shoebox.

    Become an archivist. The future depends on it.

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      As much as I want psychedelics to be legal, I think putting RFK in charge of anything important is far too high of a price to pay.

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    Damn that FDA and their suppression of…*checks list…sunshine?

    Was the solar eclipse an inside job?!?

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      When was the last time your big FDA doctor told you to sun your butthole? Why would they hide that from you?

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      It’s quite likely a belief that sunscreen lotion is a bad thing that harms people. Found that one out from an old high school crush from FL. She looks like leather now.

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        There was a finding a few years ago that while preventing skin cancer, sunscreen was also causing people in some places to get less vitamin d which was increasing instances of colon cancer. The solution isn’t banning sunscreen, it’s making sure people get some small amount of sun or supplements vitamin d.

        Being from Oz I never really considered issues with vitamin d until I moved to the UK for a few years and discovered that limited vitamin d is a real problem in winter. Im not sure on the deficiency you need for colon cancer but a few weeks of little to no Sun really messes with your head and body.

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        It’s quite likely a belief that sunscreen lotion is a bad thing that harms people.

        I mean, it halfway is:

        • “Sunscreen” – stuff with a decently high SPF rating – is a good thing that prevents cancer.

        • “Suntan lotion” – usually glorified coconut oil with fuck-all SPF rating – is a bad thing that harms people.

        • “Sunscreen lotion” – a confused amalgamation of the previous terms – is not a thing and only misleads people by conflating good things with harmful ones.

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      I think it’s like the FDA having just reasonable guidelines on how much UV you can safely be exposed to. RFKJR prolly thinks sun lotion prevents all the healthiness from the sun and crystallises your amygdala or something along those lines.

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    Honestly, Stem Cells becoming more available is cool. I don’t expect his christian overlords to allow it, but it’s a cool thought.

    I just hope none of his other snake oils end up in products for the general population. If it just killed off willing idiots then womp womp, they get what they voted for, but public health risks are rarely so discriminatory.

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      One the one hand, yes, I expect there to be internal pushback on this one. On the other hand, the HHS Secretary reports directly to the least Christian man in America.

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        But the supreme authority in this case is the senate. If the Trump Admin steps too out of line the senate can remove the secretaries, federal judges, and/or the president themself with 60 votes, which would be as easy as 45 DNC, 2 IND, and 13 GOP.

        In fact, Trump was forced into signing steel tariffs / sanctions against Russia when he initially refused to sign S.722 in 2017.

        Seems like a lot of the sources on that debacle have been lost to the pile of Russia and Trump ties, but I remember it very clearly.

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    In all that crazy, there’s, shockingly, two good points:

    1. Psychedelics. There’s at least anecdotal evidence they’re good for treating certain traumas / PTSD. So, yeah, we should be looking into their medicinal applications. But is it the FDA or the DEA that’s cockblocking those?

    2. Stem cells. Abso-fucking-lutely yes. But wasn’t it the “pro life” people holding that up?

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      Stem cells.

      He’s not talking about the stem cells that can cure a select few diseases.

      He’s talking about an alternative medicine thing which is basically sticking cells from your right arm into your left arm and calling it “stem cell therapy” then claiming it can cure hundreds of diseases.

      There is zero evidence (or RCTs) showing his version of “stem cells” works.

      The FDA bases approval on two highly successful phase 3 RCTs of a specific drug for a specific condition. You can read more about that process here

      Neither psychedelics not RFK’s version of stem cell therapy has that yet.

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        Thanks for clarifying. I took the mention of stem cells in the wall of crazy tweet to be the more credible form of stem cell therapy. Considering I was fully aware of who was making the statement, the fault is mine.

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        I suspect my insurance company will soon cover shoving goat testicles into my scrotum. I’ll be so virile!

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      There are also very good reasons to think that the money in medicine distorts and corrupts the science. Fact is the proper trials are very expensive and the only institutions that can afford them are pharmaceutical corporations. So the only treatments that get trailed are the ones that make good business sense.

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        So RFK Jr’s Dept. of HHS is going to increase government grants for pharmaceutical research, right?

        …right?

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      I mean psychedelics really shouldn’t be suppressed as much as they want, but with him gutting all actual medical science, they’re not gonna be helping much.

      They have tons of potential and power, but binging mushrooms for three days and dancing in circles isn’t probably the only way we can utilise them. (I’m not saying it’s a bad one, just not necessarily suited for everyone.)

      And actually if psychedelics gets lumped into his shit it might just be a step back for research on psychedelics when eventually this craziness of his blows up in his face. Hopefully before he implements any of it. Or even gets into office.

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        My concern is that his definition of clean food is incompatible with a sane definition of clean food.

        We’re talking about a man who got mercury poisoning from eating unsafe fish, and ate meat that caused a worm to eat part of his brain. His standards for food safety are clearly not the same as mine.

        If he were to assert that pasteurizing milk causes nearsightedness and lazy eye, I wouldn’t not be surprised.

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        Right, but we already have that so I left it off the list. Not that there aren’t things that slip through, but that’s mostly a matter of enforcement and ensuring compliance (both things I do not expect him to take seriously).

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          We don’t really. The EU refuses to import things like US chicken because of our food processes.

          EU food standards are leagues past ours, but the core reason is regulating some of our worst factory farm processes. More regulation will absolutely not happen for 4 years, so no real progress will be made.

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            That “worst factory farm process” is cleaning chicken with cleaning agents generally regarded as safe.

            https://sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/R40199.pdf

            The EU food safety agencies have issued opinions that it’s fine, and the EU would resume importing US poultry if it weren’t for that. The same agents are allowed to be used on other imported and domestically produced foods.
            The conditions in our typical poultry facility are perfectly in line with theirs, we just allow an additional rinse that they don’t.

            Our food supply is nowhere near as gross as people seem convinced.
            The biggest threat to the cleanliness of our food supply is actually people like RFK who view the food safety apparatus as the enemy.

            I really don’t see the incoming administration blocking washing poultry with vinegar or a dilute bleach solution and compensating with increased staffing for food inspection agents. More likely they approve requests by the meat industry to be able to do their own inspection and reduce independent verification in the name of “efficiency”.

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              GRAS can be self-affirmed by companies. It’s a huge loophole.

              Also, the conditions chickens are raised and slaughtered in the US as well as its dependence on undocumented workers that will not jeopardize their jobs by reporting safety issues or contamination hazards are also really large problems.

              Our food supply has issues I would consider pretty gross and it’s going to get a whole lot worse over the next few years.

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                In the case of the food cleaning sprays, I didn’t use “generally regarded as safe” in the sense they use it for food additives, I meant it in the plain English sense. The list of acceptable sprays is codified by the FDA and both the US and EU food safety organizations acknowledge that the risk of public health because of them is negligibly low. That’s why the EU also uses the same sprays, just not for poultry specifically. Our standards are otherwise completely compatible .

                I’m not saying there aren’t gross things in our food system, or things we allow that others don’t. I’m saying the poultry thing isn’t one of them, and the reputation our food system has as a disgusting free for all is unwarranted.

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      For point one, there was a big study about it but it turned out the study co-ordinators were intimidating people into saying that it helped them when it didn’t. This is why psychedelics are still banned because the “scientists” that were trying to prove that they were safe fucked up in the dumbest possible way.