Quelle surprise. Societal dictates are pushing them to the right.

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    A big portion of men not just gen z men are tired of feminist and LGBT ideology being pushed everywhere so something like Trump winning was expected at this point.

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      That’s not remotely the problem. Women having agency allows many good things, and complaining about LGBTQ+ people wanting rights is bigoted.

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        The problem was that his campaign was entirely founded on hatred, and there are a lot of hateful people. LGBTQ+ was one target. Other targets were women, Haitians, hispanic immigrants (both legal and undocumented), etc.

        In gaming specifically, DEI became a target as well. Guess who made a big stink about it to start with?

        It’s honestly disgusting.

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        “wanting to be considered people and not hidden away” is apparently too much for some people

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              Lmfao ramblings of a doofus

              You’re not talking in caricatures or vaguely gesturing broadly. You’re creating a strawman.

              None of that is real and then the question becomes two for, why the hell are you calling it queer theory or gay agenda or gender ideology. Because you’re fucked by propaganda.

              Second part, how do you say all this and not question the current “sTrAiGhT tHeOrY” existence we live

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          • Sick of feminist and LGBTQ ideology being pushed.
          • Can’t really articulate what that is and what it means, or be specific about what they don’t like about it.

          Sadly, this tracks, this is this entire block of white men pretty much (and is identical to people who complain about “woke” and “critical race theory”). It’s a result of flooding the zone with shit (google that if you don’t know what it means) and if anything, it usefully tells us who’s vulnerable to that (a tragically large number of people).

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          That isn’t a tenet. A tenet is a specific belief, like, “Jesus is the son of God”, to use a Christian example. I am asking, because given that LGBT is a descriptive label for a group and not a prescriptive belief system/ ideology, I am dubious that you can list an ideological tenet.

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              And you believe that it’s not that the Right has succeeded in pushing anti-LGBT propaganda onto young white men so much that it has tipped them towards that stance, but rather that it is genuine backlash by young white men against LGBT beliefs?

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                I believe isn’t just white men, a lot of men in general are not ok with the feminists and LGBT people preaching, and as men are IDK maybe 50% of the population that’s half the votes, the fact it’s radical people are just like 10% each side so both sides keep pushing their ideologies to take the remaining 80% votes.

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                  a lot of men in general are not ok with the feminists and LGBT people preaching

                  But they are okay with non-feminists and anti-LBGT people “preaching”? And can you clarify who are you referring to when you say “radical people”? Is that meant to be feminists and LGBT people?

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                    Radical people of both sides right and left are just like 10% each. The remaining 80% of the population have to be convinced by both sides propaganda.

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              I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re not intending to make this assertion, but as a warning: transphobia, homophobia, and misogyny are not nice, and are not tolerated on Beehaw.

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                Nowadays everything it’s blamed to be some kind of phobia. Personally I don’t think I’m one of these but anyway I’m leaving beehaw just in case, can you please ban my account to save some time deleting it?