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    21 hours ago

    The very valuable company isn’t run by just those two people. That’s the point. No one has ever made anything or worked so hard they made a billion dollars by their effort and their effort alone.

    So you think that the same people doing the exact same work (marketing, sales, etc.) produce 10x more value if you put google logo on them vs Bing? Because the companies can be run in the exact same way with the core sw being the only differentiator.

    What about a janitor. Is his cleaning the floors 10x more valuable if the building has Google logo on it compared to Bing?

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      15 hours ago

      Lol, you strawmaned him so hard you just straight up pretend he said the opposite. Good job lad.

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        11 hours ago

        Google what straw man argument is. I am asking a question.

        There are two types of employees in google. The ones who created the search engine SW and the support staff. He claims the creators of the SW are not the people who created billions in Value, so it must be the support staff. The support staff that does more or less the same kind of work as support staff in all other tech companies, yet Google is wastly more profitable per employee, so these support staff somehow create much more value by doing the exact same thing. So who exactly is creating the Value?

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          7 hours ago

          Google AKA Wikipedia says “refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion”

          They said that it takes a lot more than the sweat of literally only 2 people to make Google. And “No one has ever…made a billon dollars by…their effort alone.”.

          So to answer your question for them, no, they do not belive that. They belive all those people deserve a piece of the pie, as all of them are needed to keep everything afloat. Without your so called supporting staff, the 2 so called visionaries wouldn’t be able to bring forth shit and they sure a shell didn’t just put in more effort than everyone else to deserve the wealth an entire city would blush at.

          Also your weird fixation on logos is irrelevant here, or rather a completely separate discussion you started fighting the strawman.

          As for the janitor example, I’d need to do some wild assumptions like you to answer for them, so I’m not gonna bother.

          As for my personal opinion in all this? I’m honestly having too much fun watching from the outside to ruin it xD Fuck you’re a silly goober.

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            They said that it takes a lot more than the sweat of literally only 2 people to make Google. And “No one has ever…made a billon dollars by…their effort alone.”.

            I am not arguing they made a billion alone, I am arguing their work increased the value of Google by billions (which IMO makes them deserve some percentage of the billions).

            If all the support staff went to do the exact same work for a average different company, the product/value of that company would be less than Googles by over a billion. I used Bing as a comparable example.

            Billionaires cannot possibly create added value to account for their wealth

            Also, you accuse me of straw-maning while straw-maning yourself? What is this, Donald Trump debate club?