Honestly, I’m not mad, its just funny how state/corporate sponsored violence is all okay but a pleb making a joke (its not even a real threat c’mon) is not okay.

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Delay, Deny, Depose. Remember, Remember the 4th of December.

  • Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    1074·
    15 days ago

    Wasn’t the entire point of moving to the Fediverse that we can easily switch instances if one goes bad?

    Why are people still on .world lmao

    • Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      14 days ago

      Why are people still on .world lmao

      Few reasons:

      1. I joined when it was one of the smaller instances

      2. Laziness

      3. Currently looking to move

    • Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world
      10·
      14 days ago

      The fediverse will be at its greatest when communities can seamlessly switch instances. As seen from the minimal Reddit user migration, users won’t switch as much as necessary to affect real change.

    • Optional@lemmy.world
      102·
      15 days ago

      The large user base, and a couple of communities who don’t care about current events. But it’s not an admin thing anyway so - ? Does it really matter what instance it’s on?

      I dont’ know what community that was in, but if it was one of the usual suspects, I’d say move to a different community. Not sure what .world has to do with it since it wasn’t an admin thing, just some mod being mod. !Politics, I assume?

    • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      2·
      13 days ago

      It’s a dumb argument because unless you’re willing to lie to moderators with different usernames to trick them into not knowing who you are (ban evasion) being banned on one shitty instance locks you out of it and any communities it has. Lemmy.world has many of the bigger ones, lemmy.ml too.
      Moving on isn’t as easy as people make it seem. This is one of those Fediverse lies that people regurgitate ad-nauseam.

      The truth is that bigger instances, or instances holding bigger communities hold a larger slice of the pie, and unless you forcefully remove people from the instances, or remove the instances from the people, they cannot be replaced. You can’t start your own instance and communities to replace the big ones at the top. Your new one will occupy less of the pie.

      Looking at the communities tab can give you an idea of which ones they are

      Community Tab screenshot

      ​

      The instances which hold these positions hold control, and they can’t be as easily replaced or bypassed. So “Just move to another server” doesn’t work unless you’re encouraging ban evasion, which most people are not. They can make a real impact on your experience in the Fediverse, and trying to deny that fact is disingenuous and misinformation, because they absolutely do hold control here. They are the ones who’s actions make a difference, especially because they cannot be replaced easily.

    • TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee
      2·
      12 days ago

      The problem is communities congregate where they are the largest. You can move yourself off of lemmy.world, but you can’t move your community off of lemmy.world. You could make communities less dependent on the host they are on or any given moderator group, but Lemmy’s design is not that. So you can sever yourself off of it, and now you are left the option of joining far smaller and less active alternative communities.

      I don’t believe it would be that hard to make a lemmy style federation where if your host or their moderator groups ban you, other hosts could still see you. That used to be the case with kbin, people could comment in communities based on instances that had banned them, even if those comments would only be seen in kbin. It was easily exploitable, because it bypassed moderation controls for the home instance and would really have required moderation group for that instance, but it could be done.

      Imagine having links to communities like, https://lemm.ee/c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com ,but being capable of specifying a different moderator group / messaging handler dispatcher (or whatever the component in charge within an instance of determining which comments to inform users of is called) from another instance like, https://lemm.ee/c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com:lemm.ee , that would just default to the official if there wasn’t any instance local group in charge. But that would cause so much drama because these positions attract control freaks.

    • MisterFrog@lemmy.world
      1·
      11 days ago

      Because it’s no big loss if we end up getting banned, so as another commenter said. Laziness

      And unless mods are being massive weirdos by checking how we’re behaving in the comment sections of other instance’s communities, then it’s even less likely we’ll be banned anyway.

      So for now, I do nothing.

      And express my total non-sadness at this CEO’s, and probably many other CEO’s deaths.

      I’m not for the death penalty, but they sure as hell deserve it.