Pretty good so far, on Season 2. This may be twisted but it instills this weird listfulness in me, sort of a deep-seated desire for a history where the U.S. was colonized by worse fascist empires (hear me out) which could lead to a revolutionary, anti-imperialist unity among Statesians. Not to mention that enduring such a thing would force Amerikans to actually develop a historical memory. But in reality the U.S. could never be colonized by a worse fascist regime, as it is the ultimate colonizer fascist empire.

All I’m saying is, patsocs are right. In the Man in the High Castle universe, that is, and pretty much only then.

Also pretty interesting line: in one of the Nazi schools, a kid asks another for help on his homework: 1: “How many slaves did Washington and Jefferson own?” 2: “Washington owned 300, Jefferson owned 600.” 1: “God bless America.”

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    Another thing I respect about the show is that it circumvents a lazy and dishonest rhetorical trap I’ve come to loathe: the idea that fascist states look like black-and-white, constantly dreary prison planets where the sun doesn’t shine and nobody smiles. The show goes to great lengths to show you that it is miserable and existentially horrifying for many people to live in the Nazi American Reich / Japanese Pacific States, but does so in full color juxtaposed with white nuclear families playing games and watching Nazi propaganda with a smile on their faces eating pretzels in front of the TV, and Japanese settlers enjoying the power they hold over their subjects while they live relatively well-off lives reminiscent of the “American dream”.

    It’s important not to overly mythologize the Nazi / fascist state as it robs it of its human element and treats it as something alien and impossible, rather than the living reality of millions of people in the nations many of us live in, pertinently colonized native and black people in the U.S. as well as enslaved prison laborers. Although the natives are being systematically annihilated, although black people are wantonly being murdered by the state and incarcerated exponentially more than whites, although prisoners are the backbone of the entire U.S. economy, John Pettybougman, his loving wife, and their two and a half kids continue to play catch and enjoy life on their green lawns with a dazzling sun overhead, just as Aryan desirables did as the ashes from the crematoriums were falling as snow in the Reich.

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      Amazon originals upset me because some of them are phenomenal. Invincible is not only one of my favorite animated shows, but one of my favorite pieces of contemporary media I’ve seen. The Boys is really good (at least S1-2, haven’t seen 3) and has some damn impressive criticism of the military industrial complex, celebrity worship, the military-entertainment-complex, and fascism. The Plot Against America is a great show in a similar vein to MITHC about Charles Lindbergh taking over the U.S. and a Jewish family struggling to survive – it portrays the Soviet Union in a very positive light, with the main lead watching a newsreel of the Eastern Front and cheering on the Red Army – “go get 'em boys”, etc. One of the main characters gets associated with communists when he defects to Canada to fight the Nazis, and he pays respect to the communists for being willing to fight the Nazis. It’s just crazy how some of this stuff made it onto Amazon. Something about them selling revolution back to us, I guess. But I still have huge respect for the showrunners and actors who made this stuff possible, even if its distributors are scum.

      So far, no anti-communist stuff. Some lines indicating that Stalin was executed in 1949 and it spelled unimaginable doom for the world.

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      spoiler

      The last season was just…like argh…Apparently, the series was supposed to be much longer, but it got cut short by Amazon (so i heard), and what should’ve been 3 seasons worth of development was crammed into one.

      Politically, you won’t really get any amazing insights from it. You might as well read Animal farm.

      I have finally managed the spoiler feature 😈. Gonna go beastmode now.

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        I have finally managed the spoiler feature 😈

        Go grandpa!

        You can even change the label “spoiler” btw

        penis

        penis 𓂸

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    I would never want to wish suffering upon any common people but I worry how bad it has to get for Americans to get a damn grip.

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    I watched it when it came out. I didn’t hate it, but I just remember that it might be the least imaginative PKD book that he wrote.

    And I don’t know that there are any great film adaptations of his works.