Thanks Dems for doing jack shit about abortion bans, trans bans, the cost of living, the drone strikes, global warming, COVID.

Might as well just call them Blue conservatives. The outcome of voting for them is much the same.

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    Biden has been demonstrably, measurably worse on covid than Trump. If I had to vote for one of them today, and I was going to do it based solely on “who is going to get less people killed?” I would vote for Trump, and that’s fucking horrifying.

    The bar was buried 6 feet underground along with hundreds of thousands of people dead from covid, and Biden still didn’t clear it.

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      The argument that Biden is worse on covid than Trump has the built-in assumption that Trump would have done more about it in its second year and beyond than Biden did. That’s honestly a ridiculous assumption. There was always an expiration date on covid mitigation measures and it was always soon. It’s not like Trump would have had any more incentive than Biden to demonstrate his pandemic management skills after the election, he would have been out there declaring victory over Covid just the same.

      • The difference is when Trump said we don’t need masks, or that we don’t need to quarantine as much, or to test less people, everyone who wasn’t one of his freaks was furious. When Biden does the exact same things the liberals go “Yay COVID’s over 🙂” and the Trump freaks continue complaining about the “lockdowns” that hardly existed and ended years ago

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      If I had to vote for one of them today, and I was going to do it based solely on “who is going to get less people killed?” I would vote for Trump, and that’s fucking horrifying.

      I’m not sure this holds up if you speculate on deaths in other countries. Trump still fights a proxy war with Ukraine (probably more of a chance of deeper U.S. involvement) and does all the other background horrors of imperialism. I’m 50/50 on whether he’d pull out of Afghanistan. He’d probably try to start a war with Iran for a third time, and maybe that time it would happen. Could easily go with major force against Niger, too.

      • I’m 50/50 on whether he’d pull out of Afghanistan

        My man what are you talking about, Trump was the one who decided we were pulling out of Afghanistan and set a date, which Biden pushed back. I don’t think Biden would’ve left Afghanistan if Trump hadn’t already agreed to

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          I remember that, but Trump isn’t exactly someone who will let a little thing like a commitment stand in the way of what he’s feeling in the moment, is he?

          I could see him following through, I could see an advisor saying “uh we need six more months” until he loses interest.

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      I will never vote for a republican (or a democrat), but I think the argument can be made that things were better under Trump because liberals pretended to actually give a damn about various societal problems and did take action to help people (masking for instance). The instant Biden set foot in the White House, they switched to pretending that everything had magically become perfect and that anyone who raised an eyebrow at the mass death surrounding us was literally insane and just helping Trump.

      You have to wonder what might have happened if Trump had managed to stay in the White House. With Trump, you get civil war. With Biden, you get WW3.

      • More people died from covid in the same period of time after Biden took office compared to Trump before. Biden lifted the mask requirement on transit. Biden ended the public health emergency. Biden allowed Medicaid to kick people off again, and SNAP and unemployment to reduce payments again. Biden ended free covid testing. Trump said “less tests = less covid”, Biden made it policy. Under Biden, it was decided that employers cannot be held liable for giving their employees covid. Under Biden, the government stopped tracking covid cases in the same way, leading to more spread and worse information.

        Biden declared the pandemic is over, when it is not.

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          yeah you absolutely can be worse than that, as they pretty clearly explained in their recent comment just above you here

          which i personally think you should take a look at instead of just throwing ableist insults around