• SeaJ@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    The operating system that Google created to collect your data is secure? Not unless you get rid of all the Google services.

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        1 year ago

        Android is AOSP, it has no Google at all. Don’t confuse OEM ROMs and Android Open Source Project. As someone with GrapheneOS I can only laugh when someone calls iOS more private

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          1 year ago

          I don’t confuse anything. All flavours of Android are secure systems, but that doesn’t mean they’re all private.

          I definitely agree with you that Graphene is more private than iOS, which is probably more private than most OEM Android systems out there.

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              So, originally I simply stated that privacy and security aren’t the same, and that Android as a whole is very secure.

              And from this, you somehow extrapolated that I don’t know the difference between AOSP and OEM Systems?

              Enlighten me.

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            1 year ago

            When I hear Android, I think of Android. And that word encompasses everything imo. That’s how most people use the word in my experience.

            If someone means AOSP specifically, they’ll say AOSP

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              exactly. i think the term ‘android’ should be used as an umbrella term only, like linux.

              “im running linux”

              yeah but what distro? same with android

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            1 year ago

            Exactly, but it’s inexcusable when a tech discussion happens. You either know it, or dare to shut up (not you precisely, though). Don’t be a hypocrite, only facts.

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        1 year ago

        Android is a very secure system

        Except for the ridiculously powerful permissions you need to give most system-type apps in order for them to function (i.e. read and paint over all screen content) because the accessibility APIs are shit, and password manager APIs too fragmented to be useful.

        Sometimes the policy of “you will use our API and you will be happy” is actually beneficial for users.

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          1 year ago

          It has its flaws, like any other system. But it is a lot more secure ootb than most peoples’ Windows installation, for example.

          Is that a low bar to clear? Yeah, I guess. But it clears it by quite a margin.