Not a good meme I know but just finished Starship Troopers for the millionth time. My father died 20+ years ago… The one thing I really want!

  • Maerman@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The irony here is that Starship Troopers is pretty damn fashy, and a lot of the manosphere leans in that direction as well. So it does ring true, in an odd way.

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      I read the book in my early teens and came away thinking “what a pack of idiots”. Then the movie came along and I felt like I understood the book.

      I’m sure I’m wrong.

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      Wasn’t it supposed to be a dystopian PARODY of fascism, though? That’s how I interpreted the movie, anyway 🤷

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        You are half correct. The movie is essentially a parody of the book. The book is unironic.

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      Is it though? Whenever people say that it’s always referencing the movie’s perspective not the book’s.

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        In the book, we have no reason to believe the war against the Psuedo-Arachnids is anything but defensive.

        Heinlein was relatively fresh from the WW2 US Navy and definitely has this weird warrior-poet fixation on the ideal modern officer, and blathers on about it quite a bit, but that alone just makes him a militarist.

        Where he goes off the rails is his concept of “service guarantees citizenship,” but unlike the movie it is very clear in the novel that “service” includes not just military personnel but civil service, teachers, fire fighters, etc, those who can broadly be said to contributing to the public good.

        That’s pretty suspect, but not nearly as fascist as the movie makes it seem, especially with their hints that the destruction of Buenos Aires was a false flag. Verhoeven rather famously didn’t read the very short novel he based the movie on, which is why we don’t get Power Armored Shoulder Nuke Space Marines, the cheap illiterate coward.

        So, in short, Heinlein was a militarist liberal, self described as a “radical liberal,” thus his generally positive take on libertarianism later in life. In other words, basically just a neoliberal ahead of his time.

        Some might note that means you only have to cut him to find something else though.