• TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    They held a vote over if you wanted them to do something, and democrat voters stayed home while republicans showed up. We have literally no one to blame but ourselves. Vote if you get another chance, fight for that chance if you don’t.

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      3 hours ago

      Netanyahu started a war with Palestine to get liberals pissed off at Democrats who basically have their hands tied due to the Jewish relationship with Dems and Israel being tied to our national security.

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      4 hours ago

      Oh boy, now you’re gonna get all the “no, it’s Democrats’ fault that I didn’t vote!” people desperately trying to assuage the guilt they’re feeling for the idiotic decision that they made in the face of countless people pleading with them not to.

      • pjwestin@lemmy.world
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        I voted for Kamala. The blame is 100% on her and the Democrats for losing. Let’s forget policy entirely and look at their strategic choices. They didn’t hold a primary despite 60% of their own voters wanting a different candidate. They hid signs of Biden’s cognitive decline until they were too public to ignore. When it was clear he could not win, they appointed a successor who failed to win a single state in 2020. She then went on to hire the same people who lost to Trump in 2016, and they lost again by running the same strategy of, “court disaffected Republicans,” which failed n 2016.

        It is the job of a political party to get people to vote for their candidate. The party failed to do this through spectacular incompetence. They are the only people who should feel guilty.

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        This is a real “whatever you need to say to make yourself feel better”. Somehow everyone is compelled to vote for politicians who are complicit in a genocide, but not to vote for anyone else - by the overwhelming argument of “it’s what a lot of people voted for last time so we have to keep doing it”.

        And it’s not the fault of the people who voted for the fascist that you’re focused on - or your own fault for voting for someone who’s also a fascist, but more subtle about it - no, it’s only the people who didn’t vote for any kind of fascist, who are at fault for the fascist being elected. I’m sure you think this logic is completely sane and not just the entire reason we have bipartisan fascism and support for genocide in the U.S., not to even get into the global empire.

    • Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world
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      9 hours ago

      False. The democrats ran a terrible campaign. Biden refused to step down, until it was too late to primary. They forced a candidate upon the country without a democratic process. Their campaign had terrible messaging and was tone deaf to the real situation the working class faces. They were unable to convince millions of voters that showed out for them last time to show up again. The democrats are more concerned with protecting their donors than they are protecting the working class and winning. Until you and everyone else oblivious can come to grips with this, nothing will change.

      And before you say anything stupid, I voted for her.

      • GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world
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        OP isn’t wrong and neither are you. Democrats didn’t show up, republicans did that is why Harris lost.

        But Harris lost because of everything you wrote as well.

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        Don’t forget the last 4 years of failing to deliver any meaningful improvements for the people who voted in 2020 or even stopping republicans from banning abortion. Also a year and a half of facilitating genocide while encouraging universities to beat the shit out of the very same politically-active students who would otherwise be campaigning for the democrats.

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          7 hours ago

          What were they supposed to do without enough votes to pass policy? That doesn’t excuse them from not taking the gloves off and being very vocal about the roadblocks.

          Gaza, while an issue is not moving the needle for the majority of voters.

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            What were they supposed to do without enough votes to pass policy?

            Use executive orders. Instead of asking the SCOTUS to tell texas to remove the child drowning fence across the rio, and look like you don’t actually want it gone, send in a tank to tear it out. The commander in chief can just do that. They can also order military hospitals to provide women with reproductive healthcare.

            Did you not remember the Trump administration, where he’d try something new every week, and even if it did get shut down, getting told “no” after you’ve already accomplished what you wanted is better than not trying at all.

            Appoint a head of the DoJ that would throw Trump in prison and investigate Manchin’s family.

            Appoint a head of the DEA who would actually reschedule cannabis. You don’t need congress for these things.

    • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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      8 hours ago

      Poor Biden and Harris right? They did their bestest but if the people dont like them then maybe they just won’t talk to them anymore. Good thing we have some adults in the room.

      Guess who made an absurd amount of money losing the election? Do people not realize what donations are spent on?