Civility is the highest liberal virtue.
Either it’s civility, or it’s compromise and reaching across the aisle, but of course even compromise must always be done with great civility.
Remember, the Democrats aren’t allowed to call the Republicans fascists. It might hurt their feelings, and the Dem’s corporate masters don’t want any Republicans to have their feelings hurt. That’s why “weird” got tossed to the wayside despite being effective, that’s why Biden was chastised for calling Trump garbage, and that’s why even though Trump was “an enormous threat to our democracy,” the Dems refused to call a spade a spade. Meanwhile, Republicans are allowed to scrape the shit from their ass and sling it wherever they want.
What did you really expect the controlled opposition to do? Give a rousing speech about the tough times ahead? Inspire worker solidarity? The DNC is the poster child for corrupt old boomers, they do not give a fuck. They made millions of dollars off this election and will see zero consequence.
And yet, you all would vote for them in the blink of an eye again if the opportunity presented itself
What I expect from Democrats in power is spinelessness and acquiescence, and they almost always deliver.
The peaceful transfer of power to fascists from fascists
Lets be real. This wouldn’t have happened if the dems weren’t also genocidal trash.
Statement of caution? Americans are about to get what they asked for and if I was Biden, I’d steal half the shit on my way out and pardon all my family and friends. It’s clear that those are the rules now, so may as well take advantage of it before giving up the presidency. But American voters and those who stayed home can fuck right off and enjoy the next 4 years and keep their mouth shut.
they’ve said a lot of statements of caution
Who said what again?
They spent their admin continuing many of Trump’s worst policies. Even put his deportation and fossil fuel extraction numbers to shame.
They’re not worried about it.
They held a vote over if you wanted them to do something, and democrat voters stayed home while republicans showed up. We have literally no one to blame but ourselves. Vote if you get another chance, fight for that chance if you don’t.
Netanyahu started a war with Palestine to get liberals pissed off at Democrats who basically have their hands tied due to the Jewish relationship with Dems and Israel being tied to our national security.
Oh boy, now you’re gonna get all the “no, it’s Democrats’ fault that I didn’t vote!” people desperately trying to assuage the guilt they’re feeling for the idiotic decision that they made in the face of countless people pleading with them not to.
I voted for Kamala. The blame is 100% on her and the Democrats for losing. Let’s forget policy entirely and look at their strategic choices. They didn’t hold a primary despite 60% of their own voters wanting a different candidate. They hid signs of Biden’s cognitive decline until they were too public to ignore. When it was clear he could not win, they appointed a successor who failed to win a single state in 2020. She then went on to hire the same people who lost to Trump in 2016, and they lost again by running the same strategy of, “court disaffected Republicans,” which failed n 2016.
It is the job of a political party to get people to vote for their candidate. The party failed to do this through spectacular incompetence. They are the only people who should feel guilty.
This is a real “whatever you need to say to make yourself feel better”. Somehow everyone is compelled to vote for politicians who are complicit in a genocide, but not to vote for anyone else - by the overwhelming argument of “it’s what a lot of people voted for last time so we have to keep doing it”.
And it’s not the fault of the people who voted for the fascist that you’re focused on - or your own fault for voting for someone who’s also a fascist, but more subtle about it - no, it’s only the people who didn’t vote for any kind of fascist, who are at fault for the fascist being elected. I’m sure you think this logic is completely sane and not just the entire reason we have bipartisan fascism and support for genocide in the U.S., not to even get into the global empire.
False. The democrats ran a terrible campaign. Biden refused to step down, until it was too late to primary. They forced a candidate upon the country without a democratic process. Their campaign had terrible messaging and was tone deaf to the real situation the working class faces. They were unable to convince millions of voters that showed out for them last time to show up again. The democrats are more concerned with protecting their donors than they are protecting the working class and winning. Until you and everyone else oblivious can come to grips with this, nothing will change.
And before you say anything stupid, I voted for her.
OP isn’t wrong and neither are you. Democrats didn’t show up, republicans did that is why Harris lost.
But Harris lost because of everything you wrote as well.
Don’t forget the last 4 years of failing to deliver any meaningful improvements for the people who voted in 2020 or even stopping republicans from banning abortion. Also a year and a half of facilitating genocide while encouraging universities to beat the shit out of the very same politically-active students who would otherwise be campaigning for the democrats.
What were they supposed to do without enough votes to pass policy? That doesn’t excuse them from not taking the gloves off and being very vocal about the roadblocks.
Gaza, while an issue is not moving the needle for the majority of voters.
What were they supposed to do without enough votes to pass policy?
Use executive orders. Instead of asking the SCOTUS to tell texas to remove the child drowning fence across the rio, and look like you don’t actually want it gone, send in a tank to tear it out. The commander in chief can just do that. They can also order military hospitals to provide women with reproductive healthcare.
Did you not remember the Trump administration, where he’d try something new every week, and even if it did get shut down, getting told “no” after you’ve already accomplished what you wanted is better than not trying at all.
Appoint a head of the DoJ that would throw Trump in prison and investigate Manchin’s family.
Appoint a head of the DEA who would actually reschedule cannabis. You don’t need congress for these things.
ml users are incapable of nuanced discourse.
This is instance-based hate speech, a direct violation of rule 6.
Poor Biden and Harris right? They did their bestest but if the people dont like them then maybe they just won’t talk to them anymore. Good thing we have some adults in the room.
Guess who made an absurd amount of money losing the election? Do people not realize what donations are spent on?
People who hate democrats calling for the democrats to overthrow the US government to save them after voting third party. Lol.
It’s always the same tune with these “folks”.
They shoot themselves in the foot and go online to lament about how they’re oppressed now and it’s gotta be someone else’s fault.
It’s honestly embarrassing and makes the left look bad.
And I’m sure someone will come in here to tell me that I’m a “shitlib” or something and not a leftist, because I don’t pass their horseshit purity test.
This is why the left can never do shit. Nobody else is the “correct” kind of left in their mind, and therefore they refuse to even deal with them, let alone attempt to form any kind of coalition. It’s so fucking cringe to anybody who lives in the real world.
By these “folks”… You’re talking about genocide joe and kamalacaust, right?
If the US had Defensive Democracy, then maybe they could do something.
But instead, we have whoever wins (aka: gets the most rich doners) gets to become president, even if they want to violate the very oath they are about to take.
Which means that the only thing that can stop the orange idiot is one high ranking military officer having the courage to arrest him as a domestic threat to America. Although that would come with its own set of problems. In other words, we’re fucked.
That would be considered an illegal coup, however ethical that act might be, it wont be legal, and thus nobody would do it. So yes indeed, we’re fucked.
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Didn’t Eisenhower or some president warn about the dangers of the burgeoning military indistrial complex in his farewell address?
And Eisenhower is remembered for it, respected for it, 60+ years later.
Biden and Harris will say nothing.
Don’t blame them, blame the people who didn’t vote
Let’s blame everyone for everything they did wrong. Blaming people who did nothing before you blame the actual Trump voters is literally insane.
But also blame the DNC for running a de-energizing campaign yet again.
Maybe the fact that people need to be “energized” in order to fucking vote is the problem?
Like I’m sorry, but “you just didn’t energize me enough” is not a valid excuse for anyone not to vote, ever. Just goes to show the depth of the average American voter. Just completely devoid of critical thought.
The DNC has more power and resources to do something about it then I do. I can chew out individual people I meet, but I don’t really have the logistical rouses to go around telling 160 million people that Trump would be worse.
And yes, the American voter lacks critical thought. It’s something that takes a back seat to sports or job training in public education.
not a valid excuse for anyone not to vote, ever
I’m so sick of authoritarian pricks pretending they get to decide what is and is not valid in our system. People not voting is valid and the DNC failed to get them to change their mind
Stop huffing copium and deal with reality
My favorite is the old standby, “If you don’t vote, you have no right to complain.”
People who weren’t energized enough by the perspective of Trump don’t count as citizens anyway. I don’t know what type of energy you personally wanted, but nothing will work on those who saw Trump’s shitshow and decided to sit this one out because Kamala didn’t dance enough or whatever
I think people were more tired because Kamala was dancing too much. As in, she and Biden were just there for show and didn’t really accomplish much. I did vote for her, but it wasn’t because of anything they did.
No, blame Biden and his stupid arrogance.
The man knows his brain is melting AND he knows his presidency is unpopular, but sure, he’s going to waste months of campaign time and tens of millions of dollars, and then, to make it even better, he’s going to make sure no one in the Democratic Party tries to react to it like a reasonable person and politician.
Biden made plenty of mistakes but ultimately the people who didn’t vote are the most directly responsible, full stop.
Each individual voter only had a say in their own vote unless they campaigned as well. Biden was in the position to change how he was seen by all voters. Who has more responsibility here?
And so they deserve fascism.
This attitude will forever lose, you know that, right? This unwillingness to adapt is loser behavior.
And so they deserve fascism.
Yeah, the person you replied to definitely did not say that.
The people who voted for Trump are obviously the most directly responsible, full stop with parking brake.
The democrats knew genocide decreases voter turnout. They did it anyway. The democrats knew ending covid protections, banning tiktok, restarting student loan repayments, etc all lower voter turnout. They did it anyway.
You can wish that we lived in a world where these things didn’t lower voter turnout, but that’s not productive.
Only the democrats had the power to change the outcome of this election.
If I were them I wouldn’t exactly have a strong emotional desire to protect the people who voted for a fascist felon over them.
Do your emotional desires dictate your politics? Or do you have an ethical system that does that? If so, why didn’t your ethical system preclude you from writing that comment?
Emotions dictate the politics of the OP and artist, clearly.
Sounds like “whataboutism”/“tu quoque” to me.
Sounds like terrible leadership
In a democracy giving people what they chose is good leadership.
Absolutely false. People are fucking morons that do not know what they need. People are good at identifying the problems that face them, experts are good at finding solutions. Good leadership in a democracy is finding experts and supporting them to find solutions for the problems constituents face.
Okay so you’re unironically arguing against actual democracy and I don’t feel the need to say anything other than that to you.
We don’t live in a democracy and good leadership is not telling your whole team that they can’t get fucked because half of them made a bad decision.
Biden won the 2020 primaries by a huge margin, Trump won his primary by an even bigger margin, and Biden lost to Trump in the 2024 general WITH POPULAR VOTE.
Thats democracy. People chose this.
77 Million Trump voters who showed up and 6.6 Million DNC voters who stayed home, they all chose this.
Of course, good managers pick sides and help push the other one off a cliff.
Yea man, instead of just handing over the keys to the fascists they should be doing something, like creating angsty memes!
That would be exponentially more than they’ve done.
You’re content with their silence and acquiescence instead.
What are they supposed to do?
The majority voted for Trump. What more is there to discuss?
Was it truly majority? And is it 100% certain there was no fraud?
I heard in finland’s news there was somekind of arson attack at some point which destroyed bunch of votes, while the elections were still going but i have no idea how much. I dont think they would fabricate such news.
Afaik there is no evidence to the contrary.
No evidence as in it has been investigated reliably and nothing was found or as in nothing has been done because there is no obvious evidence?
They could at least stand behind the messaging from the campaign.
If you call someone a dangerous threat to democracy for a year, and then when they get elected you wish them well and act civil, it really undermines your point about the whole threat to democracy thing.
Exactly. I believe Trump truly is an existential threat to the world and American democracy. To Biden and Harris, it was just campaign jargon.
Wall, I for one appreciate when someone acta civil. Especially when they can’t do anything anyway.
Because you have no fight in you. Was MLK civil? More than Malcolm, maybe, but no he wasn’t.
Bernie Sanders has more fight right now than anyone in the upper echelons of the DNC.
They weren’t president though.
Presidents, president candidates, and other persons of similar power should just accept that they lost and not do another trump. That’s unless you want a political climate where every election there are fights regarding who won and a bunch of bullshit childish behaviour.
Presidents are supposed to be professionals and should act like it and that includes not being a bad loser.
But by all means you should protest every day of his presidency. But also remember that you guys choose this yourselves.
Presidents are supposed to be professionals and should act like it and that includes not being a bad loser.
Apparently, you wrote the rule book and Biden and Harris are following it.
So you’re an idiot.
Rude!
It’s okay if your hot take isn’t popular, don’t take it out on everyone else though…
With effort and imagination, insults can be amusing, interesting, outrageous, or profound.Please give us higher-quality insults, or no insults at all.
He’s an idiot screeching for decorum during the fall of the Republic, he doesn’t deserve better and coating an insult in wit doesn’t change its nature or intent.
screeching
Holy hyperbole batman, your reading comprehension might need some work.
Oh, look. They’re flocking.
The majority voted for Trump in a country with voter suppression, gerrymandering, and even terrorist threats against voters / poll workers. I don’t know what to think of that statistic in light of… many exhausting decades of bullshit.
So what? What are they supposed to do?
Stage an insurrection?
Hah can you imagine? I’m just dubious about Trump having a mandate.
The majority didn’t vote at all.
About 36% of eligible voters didn’t vote. That’s not a majority. Can we be accurate with facts here?
Like in the Trolley problem, not making a choice is itself a choice.
No, and that’s their fault.
It’s very unfortunate but that’s the way it is. Deal with it and stop complaining. Find a good way to win the next election instead.
yeah this stuff is so rediculous. What if they had warned? then the meme would go to the next goalpost or whatever.
They will be fine. With their millions of dollars, book sales, philanthropic foundations, speech engagements, fundraising… The changing of the guard doesn’t mean shit to them except they’re not on the government dime anymore.
The rest of the (sane) country? Watching them row away from the Titanic in a half-empty lifeboat.
Exactly.
The people have spoken. The last duty of the outgoing administration is the orderly hand-off to the incoming admin.
What about this is hard to understand? They’re doing what we ask of them; even if you, me and they fear the next 2 years and then 2 more.
But I suspect this is just trolling.
The
peoplemoneyed interests in charge of a deeply unrepresentative system have spokenFixed that for you. If not for several kinds of voter suppression and the Dem leadership being deaf to the left two thirds of the base, the GOP would have become permanently uncompetitive to the point of irrelevance DECADES ago.
What about this is hard to understand? They’re doing what we ask of them
False, see above. The US is one of the LEAST representative “democracies” in the world even when you DON’T count legal corruption as corruption.
But I suspect this is just trolling.
BIG “criticizing Biden means you love Trump” energy 🙄
They’re doing what
we ask of themthe people they talk to expect from them.I asked for nothing. I wanted Bernie or just anyone with a moral backbone. The howling of the people remained unheard
The majority of voters speak for us all, and we asked for racist plutocratic theocratic fascism.
I cannot fathom how any decent human being could cast any kind of vote for trump but the people that did are not the actual problem.
The fact that there where only 2 options of the same 2 cults the majority has gotten tired off is the problem.
It is post election and we sadly cant redo it. There is little sense to make a “us and them” between voters and non voters besides a subtle “told you so” now and then when leopards eat there faces. Always remember devision is a political weapon used against us. It would be the higher dynamic of the politica Theater working exactly as designed to make sure we the people cant organize power.
If you want ballot access reform and campaign finance reform, Vote Dem. You’re right that the Trump voters aren’t the problem the almost 7 million voters who stayed home compared to 2020 are.
… as always.
No, Biden has a duty to protect the constitution, so letting the fascists take over is a dereliction of duty.
It’s a fine line to tread. Biden and Harris have a Constitutional duty to step aside on January 20, and let Trump and Vance take over, but there’s no duty to acquiesce so quietly and cooperatively. They could be leading pro-civil rights rallies and delivering speeches on national TV, but of course, if they did they wouldn’t be Biden and Harris.
We invision leaders who have moral fortitude, believe in justice, want to make the world better, and have a plan to do so.
What we actually have are people who showed up, people who sold out, people who can navigate petty social interactions, and people who cling to power because it’s their ticket to an easy life.
Never should anyone be surprised when they let us down. It’s all theatre and the few who might fit the bill get isolated and rejected because they threaten the rests existence.
Explain precisely what you want him to do. Should he refuse to hand over power in “defense of the constitution”? Be specific.
you can invade, stage coups and meddle in other countries to bring or protect “democracy” then why not your own?
Let’s try this again. Explain precisely what you want Biden to do. He specific. Rhetorical questions don’t count.
I’ll tell you want I want him to do. Nothing. I want him to retire from politics. I want him to admit guilt that he never put up a fight and never intended to. I want him to be ashamed about the direction he lead the country in. I want him to denounce his stake in the DNC and encourage his peers to do the same.
What is happening now is a major failing of both parties. If they so desperately want to be the only two horses that get to race then they take responsibility for every other horse they’ve essentially knee capped.
I’ll tell you want I want him to do. Nothing. I want him to retire from politics. I want him to admit guilt that he never put up a fight and never intended to. I want him to be ashamed about the direction he lead the country in. I want him to denounce his stake in the DNC and encourage his peers to do the same.
I would only quibble that what you’ve suggested is not ‘nothing’. It’s not a lot, but it’s far more than Biden (or Harris) has ever done, or are ever likely to do. If either of them did what you suggest, they’d have my respect for the first time.
They are trolling, yes. Part of their campaign message was also quite clear about simply not being Trump
