Yet these are new and in production, where you can only find used or refurbished 1080tis
Like, no one is saying to upgrade to a battlemage card from a 1080ti if you already have one, but you can’t pretend there isn’t a market for it. And while they might not be fully there yet, having a competitive entey-level market for GPUs will only bring good things for budget PCs.
E waste is a huge deal, a refurbished or even used card is soooo much better for the environment than new
And people will always keep buying the newest and fastest, and selling last gen’s newest and fastest into the used market.
There’s nothing wrong with buying used as long as you’re paying attention. It’s not like 20 years ago when card burnt out in a couple years. Even mining rigs aren’t that hard on cards these days because we’re past the days of them OCing to go as fast as possible. They’re undervolting to save on electricity and running at steady loads when power is cheap.
We need to normalize used hardware.
Quick edit:
I should point out to be very careful right now, everytime a new gen comes out there’s a bunch of scams like cards without dies and other things.
Always be careful, check reviews and understand some things are too good to be true.
Okay, $250 then. Everything I still said is still true.
Modern features is more than just raytracing and frame generation. It supports new graphics APIs, more video codecs, etc. Memory bandwidth has also significantly improved since Pascal.
I hadn’t even mentioned efficiency, but it uses ~100w less than a 1080ti, which means less heat as well.
It seems like you prefer buying used and don’t have much of a need for the new stuff, which is fine. Keep using your hardware as long as it meets your needs. But that doesn’t mean this card is a bad value. It’s just not for you.
About a different card no one is talking about and you subbed in?
Or about the actual card everyone was discussing and that the article is about?
Like, this is bigger than the topic at hand, you understand how you just created a different argument and are insisting people talk about that instead?
Still less performance and less vram than a 1080 ti…
For the same price.
So not sure what the hype is, they’re almost beating an 11 year old card?
The GTX 1080ti launched at $700. The Intel B570 is $220.
It not only out-performs the 1080ti, but it also has support for way more modern features.
PC world used a 1080ti and a 3060 comparison in their review
11 years ago…
Today they’re 200-250.
That review is for the b580 at $250, you’re commenting on an article about the b570…
And while the 580 supports ray tracing… It’s gonna be a huge performance hit.
It tries to gain that back with frame gen, but it will have a really low real fps which means issues when it’s used.
So you can have real frames and no ray tracing, or ray tracing and fake frames. For the samish fps
Most people will choose real frames.
Yet these are new and in production, where you can only find used or refurbished 1080tis
Like, no one is saying to upgrade to a battlemage card from a 1080ti if you already have one, but you can’t pretend there isn’t a market for it. And while they might not be fully there yet, having a competitive entey-level market for GPUs will only bring good things for budget PCs.
Why do you need new?
E waste is a huge deal, a refurbished or even used card is soooo much better for the environment than new
And people will always keep buying the newest and fastest, and selling last gen’s newest and fastest into the used market.
There’s nothing wrong with buying used as long as you’re paying attention. It’s not like 20 years ago when card burnt out in a couple years. Even mining rigs aren’t that hard on cards these days because we’re past the days of them OCing to go as fast as possible. They’re undervolting to save on electricity and running at steady loads when power is cheap.
We need to normalize used hardware.
Quick edit:
I should point out to be very careful right now, everytime a new gen comes out there’s a bunch of scams like cards without dies and other things.
Always be careful, check reviews and understand some things are too good to be true.
Okay, $250 then. Everything I still said is still true.
Modern features is more than just raytracing and frame generation. It supports new graphics APIs, more video codecs, etc. Memory bandwidth has also significantly improved since Pascal.
I hadn’t even mentioned efficiency, but it uses ~100w less than a 1080ti, which means less heat as well.
It seems like you prefer buying used and don’t have much of a need for the new stuff, which is fine. Keep using your hardware as long as it meets your needs. But that doesn’t mean this card is a bad value. It’s just not for you.
About a different card no one is talking about and you subbed in?
Or about the actual card everyone was discussing and that the article is about?
Like, this is bigger than the topic at hand, you understand how you just created a different argument and are insisting people talk about that instead?
Right…?
Everything I said is true about both Intel cards. Clearly you are just arguing in bad faith and are not open to considering other options. Goodbye.