Technically it’s for any printer capable of printing a firearm or the components of a firearm, which is…. every printer. What a bafflingly stupid proposal. If you’re in NY, please call your reps and tell them to oppose this bill.

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    1. FOR PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION, “THREE-DIMENSIONAL PRINTER” MEANS A COMPUTER OR COMPUTER-DRIVEN MACHINE OR DEVICE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A THREE-DIMENSIONAL OBJECT FROM A DIGITAL MODEL

    Well, that’s a broad definition. I guess to whomever wrote that, a CNC mill is also a 3d printer.

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      It’s not like inkjets produce 2 dimensional ink. I’d love to see someone argue in court that it’s technically impossible to create a non 3d printer

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        Well achtually…To be pedantic,

        A 3D consumer grade printer is not a true 3D tool since it can only move on 2 axis simultaneously. If you watch your printer closely, as it finishes it’s path around the xy plane, there is a tiny halt as it changes active plane from the xy plane to xz plane, lifts the nozzle, then flips the active back to the xy to go along it’s merry way again to lay down the new layer. And no, the hot new scarf joint is still a single plane movement. Sometimes such machines are incorrectly referred to as 2 1/2 axis because they aren’t true 3 axis.

        Source: I’m an old retired toolmaker. Trust me Bro.

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          There is vase mode, which lifts the Z axis gradually while printing. This creates one continuous extrusion for the whole print.

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                It only appears so. It’s flipping the xz and yz planes only as it hits each quadrant. It just does it really fast. Looking closely at the layer lines will show you it’s not a true 3D movement.

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      Oh don’t worry, there will be a third. And a fourth. And a… Well, more and more until it passes

      It only has to pass once

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        Political hackers.

        The people have to be successful every time, but the political hackers have to successful just once.

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      Well, everyone knows only main boards have a serial number, so you need a permit for that. But the rest is a spare part, you can get it freely.

      /s

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    Again. This bill was introduced last year, by the same person, and it died at the time because of some grassroots actions. Now, the wording is slightly different (so it can be introduced again as a “different” bill), and it’s being tried again.

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    This is braindead, are they gonna require background checks for the hardware store next?

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      Don’t forget sporting goods and kitchen supplies. Heck, you can get a bunch of decent knives in IKEA, better put furniture outlets on a watchlist.

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    If you’re european and ask yourself why 3D printed guns are such an issue in the US: It’s not because entire guns are easy to print (or printable at all), It’s because of their idiotic gun laws: in the US, the only controlled part is the receiver or frame, which often enough is made of plastic anyway, while the most important part -the barrel- is freely obtainable.

    […]frames or receivers of firearms are “firearms” as defined in the law and are subject to the same controls as complete firearms."

    Germany has a similar law, except that every part of the gun is controlled.

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      Make a community with a dude that makes potassium and another dude that makes sulfur and then you can really make things go off

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    Are they going to require background checks for purchasing metal working equipment? Or maybe just make it illegal to bring any metal to melting point without a license.

    Because you can make guns with metal.

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      It just buy a gun third party or at a gun show in a state without background check requirements.

      This isn’t rocket science.

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        Background checks are a Federal requirement and any transfer requires it go through an FFL for just that reason There is no Gun Show Loophole

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          The loophole is largely in the matter of enforcement. It is comically easy to evade these regulation or outright ignore them.

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    Anything to avoid having to actually address the systemic poverty and bigotry ingrained in the system that leads to violence…

    From what I understand the “problem” as it’s being framed in terms of ghost guns and inner city crime or whatever the buzzword is this year is not hobbyists running off a lower or frame for themselves. None of those guys in the hood and their switches are buying Bambus or building Vorons and suddenly turning into 3D printing gurus – Someone, or several someones more likely, are deliberately mass manufacturing these things for sale to the criminals which is already thoroughly illegal. Find the gun runners and stomp on them. I thought you guys were supposed to have this big scary police force and surveillance apparatus?

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      I’m a hobbyist 3D printer and I can barely get my minis to print half decently, never mind a functional firearm

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      California is cracking down hard on ghost guns right now… Its super important in LA. Its gotta be the single most biggest issue they are dealing with right at the very moment.

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      It’s mostly a bunch of little hood gunsmiths, making them and selling them to customers. It’s literally the gun equivalent of an attic full of weed plants.