• fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world
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        18 days ago

        In which case you’ve indirectly given Trump a higher chance of winning (sorry…). I’m also voting green here in Europe, but there’s a slight difference with the electoral system. In the USA, I would’ve had to vote for the democrats, not because I really support their ideas, but because they’re the only party that has a realistic chance of winning apart from the drumpsters. It’s the sad reality. I hope USA at some point changes their voting system to be more democratic, but right now it’s choosing between the lesser evils…

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          18 days ago

          So, the argument you have is that voting doesn’t matter individually, only in aggregate. I don’t buy that, but even if I did, I live in a blue state. My state would’ve gone to Harris no matter who I voted for.

          • fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world
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            18 days ago

            My state would’ve gone to Harris no matter who I voted for.

            Ok, that’s actually a reason I accept.

            So, the argument you have is that voting doesn’t matter individually, only in aggregate.

            Not entirely. In democracies that e.g. use coalitions to get the majority, like a lot of european democracies, this absolutely makes a difference. But the USA just naturally leans towards this 2-party system. Which btw. degrades the “democratic” aspect quite significantly (i.e. USA is quite low on the democratic index compared to e.g. Norway).

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          18 days ago

          there’s a slight difference with the electoral system.

          Big part of the difference being that people actuslly vote for third candidates lmao

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            18 days ago

            If everyone would sync up and vote together for a different party, it would make a (big) difference. But hey let’s be realistic… I’m extremely idealistic and take every opportunity to change this fucked up system/world to the better. But still I’m living too long on this planet to not be realistic and just see, that there’s unfortunately way less people really wanting to change this system apparently, or rather(?) not seeing what could be done when working together (it’s not even that many people even to make a significant change when e.g. protesting), but it’s this: “working together” where we’re just failing bad, the world is too scattered to see this, and instead further and further falls for the technofeudal (increasingly oligarchic) system that builds and abuses on emotions (mostly anxiety)…

            So instead a lot of people vote for whatever candidate sugar-coats and bleats (and lies) the loudest - sadly.