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Collision Resistance@lemm.ee to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

Joe Biden’s DOJ Is Claiming “There Is No Constitutional Right to a Stable Climate”

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Joe Biden’s DOJ Is Claiming “There Is No Constitutional Right to a Stable Climate”

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In the same week large swaths of the US were under extreme heat warnings, Joe Biden’s Justice Department filed its most recent motion to dismiss a landmark climate case by arguing that nothing in the Constitution guarantees the right to a secure climate.
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  • duderium [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Biden is the more competent fascist we were warned about. Capital will get its way regardless of which major political party is running the country.

    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      there’s only been competent fascists and incompetent fascists for the last few decades at least, Trump was merely so incompetent that it temporarily broke the grand spell before the government used the Men in Black memory deletion thingy and everybody went “Awesome, back to brunch!” on January 20th, 2021

  • ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip
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    We’re not asking for a stable climate, just a natural one.

    • rubpoll [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      They’ll say no to that too.

  • Pluto [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netBannedBanned from community
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    Joe Biden’s DOJ is claiming bullshit.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    biden-alert HARM REDUCTION biden-alert

  • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    so, they’re arguing for a new amendment, right?

    they’re arguing for a new amendment, right?

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      r/politics is just saying “yeah, true”, literally nobody going after Biden (some people actually saying “Jacobin just doing this because they’re desperate for Trump back because Biden is so good”), and people arguing about how the ‘sacred documents’ say we can’t do anything

      America is so fucked lmao

  • M68040 [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    I feel like this falls under the “life” part of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”

    Also, in a broader sense, “we can shit everywhere all we want and never clean up” is a criminally idiotic way to govern

    • AbbysMuscles [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      But there is a line in the constitution mentioning the government’s duty to provide for the general welfare.

      Not that any of this shit matters but still

    • Finger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      no more half measures walter

    • joseph [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      That phrase is not in the constitution tho. It was a line from the DOI at the start of the revolution and isn’t actually binding to the current American federal government.

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        • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          This is regarding the State itself not depriving people of life (e.g. by execution) except by due process, not a guarantee that life will be protected in any other sense for any other reason.

          Obviously also bullshit given cops summarily executing people and having qualified immunity, etc., but if we’re being pedantic, we should go all the way.

        • silent_water [she/her]@hexbear.net
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          it’s worth about as much as toilet paper since this has never meant anything during any part of US history.

    • Melonius [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      maybe-later-honey founding fathers didn’t explicitly say where to shit so our hands are tied

  • FuckyWucky [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    I thought it was an Onion article for a second

    • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Making our comrades work over there even harder.

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    agony-shrooms

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    Novel way to teach children that the constitution ain’t shit.

    • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      They threw it in the blender after national-mourning-period

      • pastalicious [he/him, undecided]@hexbear.net
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        From the beginning.

  • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Not everything in the universe is enumerated in the constitution you psychotic robot

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      um, excuse me, i’ve been told it is the greatest document ever written and handed directly from god to george washington so get rekt leftists

    • BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
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      Excuse me sir but the constitution is like the bible part 2 but better

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      They know that. The argument is purely opportunist.

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      We only ever hear how “the sacred texts” prohibit things when they would be tangibly good.

      PATRIOT Act was ruled unconstitutional fucking forever ago, but you know.

      • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Oh absolutely. They do whatever they want and drag their feet over what they don’t want to do.

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    W for accelerationists

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    In the Biden administration’s June 22 court filing, Justice Department lawyers argued that because the child plaintiffs are not the only people who will be harmed by ecological breakdown, the suit should be thrown out.

    “The state of the climate is a public and generalized issue, and so interests in the climate are unlike the particularized personal liberty or personal privacy interests of individuals the Supreme Court has previously recognized as being protected by fundamental rights,” the Justice Department wrote.

    biden You see, this is going to kill everyone so your individual concerns about being killed are invalid

    joker-amerikkklap

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      “They’re trying to kill me," Yossarian told him calmly.

      “No one’s trying to kill you,” Clevinger cried.

      “Then why are they shooting at me?” Yossarian asked.

      “They’re shooting at everyone,” Clevinger answered. “They’re trying to kill everyone.”

      "And what difference does that make?”

      ― Joseph Heller, Catch-22

  • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]@hexbear.net
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    “There is no constitutional right to a stable climate” is giving me some real “There are things more important than peace” vibes

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    Capitalists really out there trying to pick a fight with the climate, you can’t drone strike a hurricane Brandon

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      Looking forward to them shooting sulphur into the clouds to cool down the atmosphere

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        I have the white paper for my “nuke the sahara until the temperature comes down” right here.

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  • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Interesting. I continue not to give a shit about the constitution.

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      The US is the only country I know of that fetishises it’s constitution to this extent. Most everywhere else it’s just an old document, but it seems like us lawmakers treat it like some demonic pact that has to be inscrutably followed

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        It’s also really weird how the highest court in the land is supposed to be dedicated to interpreting the constitution and extrapolating whether the founding fathers would have supported or opposed something fucking 250 years ago. Other countries rewrite parts of their constitutions all the time, but in burgerland George Washington is a deity that supposedly knew it all.

        Also, America has the second oldest working constitution in the world which (only beaten by a microstate), which is kinda crazy for how young the country is

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          It’s very Warhammer 40k by worshipping the document equivalent of a headstone for centuries.

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          What’s even weirder is that the US Supreme Court was not even given that power by the constitution and just kinda gave it to itself in Marbury v Madison

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        What’s the difference between a lawyer and a demon? Idk

        Both make pacts and contracts. Both honor the verbiage of the contract to the letter over the intent. Both will cost you dearly. Both generally only show up uninvited or when something bad happens. Both take benefit from others’ misfortune.

        I can’t tell the difference.

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          A demon fucks you, a lawyer fucks you. That’s the real difference I think

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        And they love to cling to single amendments instead of the entire document, as it should be interpreted.

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