ID: stevens_bad_advice posted: “Fun fact, if billionaires got shot as often as school children, we’d run out of billionaires in 2 months.”

  • aberrate_junior_beatnikEnglish
    162·
    5 days ago

    As much as I dislike billionaires and think we have a huge problem with school shootings, the math on this doesn’t check out. According to Forbes there are more than 2,500 billionaires; 2,500/60 > 40 per day. I didn’t dig too deep on the stats for school shootings (because oof), but thankfully we’re not there. There are so, so many more than could be, and it’s a horrible tragedy that we’re doing nothing about, but we aren’t there.

    • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
      20·
      5 days ago

      Looks like that page is worldwide billionaires. I thought it obvious that the meme was talking about Americans. A very quick Google search tells me that “there are 756 billionaires living in 43 of the 50 US states or Washington, D.C.” (and no billionaires in the last 8 states). That’s less than 13 per day.

      • ryedaft@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        7·
        5 days ago

        Let’s see if we can’t figure this out.

        In 2021, 54% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides (26,328), while 43% were murders (20,958), according to the CDC. The remaining gun deaths that year were accidental (549), involved law enforcement (537) or had undetermined circumstances (458).

        The FBI collects data on “active shooter incidents,” which it defines as “one or more individuals actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area.” Using the FBI’s definition, 103 people – excluding the shooters – died in such incidents in 2021.

        The Gun Violence Archive, an online database of gun violence incidents in the U.S., defines mass shootings as incidents in which four or more people are shot, even if no one was killed (again excluding the shooters). Using this definition, 706 people died in these incidents in 2021.

        Citation: What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S. | Pew Research Center - https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

        None of these numbers really seem to add up to what’s in the meme.

        Edit: although, what if we killed one billionaire for every school kid that got shot, whether the child died or not. That might work?

        • reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net
          2·
          5 days ago

          If 706 billionaires were killed by school mass shooters this year leaving 756-706=50 I bet those 50 would become model contributing citizens

        • ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
          32·
          5 days ago

          None of these numbers really seem to add up to what’s in the meme.

          Edit: although, what if we killed one billionaire for every school kid that got shot, whether the child died or not. That might work?

          if billionaires got shot as often as school children

          ^the meme beat you to it lol

          Though good job trying to find those numbers (genuinely)

    • ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
      122·
      5 days ago

      I didn’t dig too deep on the stats for school shootings (because oof), but thankfully we’re not there.

      The post says “shot” not “killed”. I’ve only done a superficial search, but looks like

      Each day 12 children die from gun violence in America. Another 32 are shot and injured.

      aource

      So the post is only off by what, a week or two?

      E: assuming that the 12 killed are also counted in the 32 shot, otherwise the meme is underestimating it. (E2: which, reading again, is an assumption I shouldn’t be making because it clearly says that another 32 are injured, so yeah, we’re there)

      • festnt@sh.itjust.works
        41·
        5 days ago

        yeah, the post says shot, not killed. but, it clearly implies that all of those who get shot end up dying because it also says “run out of billionares”

        if they most of them survive we wouldn’t even come close to running out of them in 2 months

        • ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
          84·
          5 days ago

          Or it could just as easily be “run out of billionaires to shoot”, or that the last hundred billionaires realise they’re next and surrender or or or…

          The point of the meme is clear, this pedantry seems like a ridiculous waste of energy. Knock yourselves out, I’m done lol

    • Grimy@lemmy.world
      6·
      5 days ago

      So last year we had 60 school shooting deaths (in the us) but we also only have 756 billionaires (in the us). At that rate, it would take 12.6 years.

      In 1794 in France, they averaged 30 a day. It goes a lot quicker with a guillotine.