• Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org
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    1 month ago

    That’s a perspective on Mary Shelley that I hadn’t considered. But she was reasonably well-adjusted and popular. And yes I do consider Frankenstein to be the first English science fiction.

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      But she was reasonably well-adjusted

      Bruh…

      She kept her dead husbands heart and would carry it around with her

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          She would have had to be Frankenstein if she somehow had her living husband’s heart. Taking out the heart does tend to have the property of leading to death

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        If keeping body parts is a sign of neurodivergence then lots of religious people are neurodivergent. Having body parts (finger, bones, organs) from holy people or saints as relics is extremely common.

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      I don’t refer to mary shelly. I do not distinguish her as the “inventor” of science fiction either. Rendering strange ideas in terms of esoteric disciplines for the metaphorical augmentation or whatever is as old as humanity.

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          If the authors believed magic and the gods to be real, would ancient works like The Epic of Gilgamesh or The Iliad count as science fiction?

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            Good question! Typically they get listed as fantasy because the magic isn’t manmade. Most definitions of science fiction require a human to have created the unrealistic element - or an extraterrestrial lifeform who is roughly analogous to a person. It’s not just that magic is present, but that it was derived from supernatural sources and not by human actions.

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          It’s something I haven’t delved into enough to arrive at a definitive conclusion, actually. The subject delivers little thrill for me.