I feel bad for reccomended world I take those comments back
I made !unlockthread@lemm.ee for lockedthreads but yall can crosspost and recomment there (lol i dont see anyone actually using that community yet), this situation applies
In my experience, too many .world mods are shit. Just Reddit all over again.
Yep!
The hypocrisy in someone posting about a national shutdown in protest of a forceful dictatorship-
-then going on to delete most of the comments because they don’t like that they disagree with their narrative is- Well… you know……
I see things like this all time. It’s so crazy they never see that they’re doing exactly what they accuse others of.
Ya know eveytime I see these I wonder, “how did the Arabs do it?” They actually did something in Egypt. We can’t even agree to take the same day off.
It didn’t do shit. Egypt is a dictatorial police state, the middle east is in shambles, thousands have died for just wanting peace and democracy.
They fucking used tanks against bahraini protestors. Libya is a failed state. Syria entered a decade long civil war, and tunisia is the only one that had a good outcome[-ish].
We still live like peasants in autocratic monarchies, totalitarian dictatorships and “democracies”, what the fuck is this user talking about?
But if you are going to do this, you need some amount of leadership and coordination. 50 people losing their jobs as they said is nothing in the grand scheme of things, but it will ruin those 50 people’s lives.
Egypt got fuck ton of money from USA to restore (their) order. Libya was toppled by the USA. Syria was destabilized and invaded by everyone around it (and the USA)
edit: sorry if it wasn’t clear, but i was agreeing with you here.
I was mainly talking from my point of view, how the arab spring went. It was the struggle of the people against their oppressors and they couldn’t handle not having powers. Egypt is struggling heavily currently even with US backing, and is ruled by a wannabe dictator. Libya is… libya, and i’m truly happy that Syria eventually won, despite the hundreds of thousands of martyrs, and dead.
I blame the UK and france more than anyone for this, since after the Arab revolt they betrayed us, and created a bunch of puppet states with horrible borders (can’t forget funding the sauds, handling the balfour agreement horribly and killing the egyptians too) then literally never paid us back for the destruction. Though the US is responsible for modern middle eastern instability too, such as invading Iraq for no reason at all, and “saving” the libyans.
Yes, Sadly the imperial order never ended. Just paid dictators instead of puppet states…
I’d argue it’s both. We’re still under occupation, it’s just both by western countries and ourselves. It’s a miserable truth that we all have to live with, fascism has been alive and kicking in the ME for a century [at least]. I often tear up thinking where did we go wrong but i always remember it’s the same parasites: authoritarians. They’d sell us all into slavery for a quick buck in a heart beat, they cannot be trusted around anything.
I know it will all end eventually, but that will take decades, or even centuries. All for what? the british wanting to defeat the ottomans?
This is the worst example of all i can think of, every time i think of him it’s just, what the fuck. Mazen didn’t deserve any of this. Everytime i think of him i want to cry, because i know he is not the only one who experienced this hell. May he rest in peace.
I saw that post in my feed and scrolled through all the deleted comments. Checked the modlogs to see what was removed and immediately thought- yeah, that post will end up here.
PTB for sure.
The bastard deleted my comment. All i said was that it looked like a facebook chain post (1 like = 1 prayer, share for jesus).
I explained why in an Edit to the Post. But you’re too self-absorbed to understand it. Also, my parents were married.
Lmao like I’m going to go back and read your nonsense. Your reason in the deletion comment was “none”. Way to project, and your parents marital status has nothing to do with you being a bastard. For a name like tokenboomer you retort like a 12 year old.
I was trying to talk down to your level, but apparently can’t get low enough. You’re not making the case that removing your comment wasn’t justified. I had to remove 30+ comments from “Negative Nancy’s” like yourself. It took long enough. I’m not gonna coddle every insecure ego with an explanation. You’ll live. I just had a comment removed from /news. Am I on here bitching in a Post. No. Because I’m an adult and understand that moderating communities isn’t easy. It’s time consuming and thankless. You think you’re the only person upset that their comment was removed? Moderators and Admins are just people doing the best that we can.
LOL… you’re not doing yourself any favors by insulting the people accusing you of power tripping.
For the record: removing comments that violate no rules just for simply disagreeing with a post- without giving reason for each removal, and then updating the post with flimsy reasoning for removal is by definition- BAD MODERATING.
And If you can still find yourself defending your decision to silence people simply for disagreeing with your point- you have no business being a moderator.
Have you ever moderated a community? Glass houses…
I allowed free discussion on that post for a day. A post about organizing against Trump and fascism. And it wasn’t until the discussion degraded into apathy, negativity and discouragement that I decided that it was necessary, for the spirit of the post, to remove comments. I could not allow the melancholy of insecure individuals to influence participation in a protest movement that hopefully will save America. Judging by the reactions, it was necessary and warranted.
As for insults- Don’t insult me, and I won’t insult you.
I have moderated many in the past- and I only moderate a few currently. And I can tell you from my experience over the years- doing shit your way is the opposite of what defines a good moderator.
And if it helps, because it sort of relates-
If you’re going to ask a question, maybe allow the person questioned, to answer before you drop accusations on them. Because the “glass houses” this makes you come off as someone smug and obnoxious.
It’s your community, moderate as you see fit- but know that your not entitled to have everyone agree with you.
What community on Lemmy do you moderate?
Edit: Just looked through the modlog at some of your comments. Being smug and obnoxious to you is too nice. You call people trolls. Lol
As someone who just wanted to understand the protest and offer why I feel the mission is too ambitious, it feels more like you just wanted to post something without considering how it would be perceived.
The spirit of lemmy is genuine discussion, not posting for the sake of gaining visibility without allowing the community to digest it all together.
You think it’s too ambitious to resist fascism? It was my fault for posting about a strike to a discussion forum. And usually I would allow open discussion. But, this is one of the few platforms where the resistance can organize, and the many discouraging comments and general apathy about fighting back could stifle participation in social movements going forward. I will not apologize for encouraging positive optimism while fighting authoritarian fascism. I encouraged users with criticism to contact the organization directly and influence its construction. The positive comments and recommendations are still in the comments of the post. Some of the critical comments were “iffy” and I do apologize to users who got caught up in the removal. If this organization had a solid base and many members, I would have let criticism slide. But this organization and its network are in its infancy. It is critical in the beginning stages of a movement to encourage positive support and feedback. If users feel aggrieved I am sorry, but I would do it again. I hope they can understand.
I totally get your point. I dont accept people trying to flood anti-corporate with negativity either.
Some of these are peeps that just recently arrived or reactivated their accounts after reddit went off another cliff.
The other half are paid actors, LLMs, bots and other trash that was sent here to run counter ops since people are not playing „fair“ with elon and zuck and are not using their platforms as often anymore to complain which is bad for business. Boo-fucking-hoo.
Youre doing good work mate! Thank you for being awesome.
I’m not trying to convince you, this isn’t an argument, it’s discussion.
It’s not a discussion or an argument. I decided 2 days ago. This was an explanation. It is, what it is.
If users feel aggrieved I am sorry, but I would do it again.
Further validating the opinion that if you can’t accept that people will react differently than how you might want or expect them to, and you even think to silence them because of it- you have no business being a moderator.
…yawn
To clarify, there’s definitely some outright flaming and incivility in there that warranted deletion, but there’s a lot of valid comments and constructive criticism that got removed, too.
There’s no formal rules on this comm except “be civil”.
There is also a fair amount of deflecting in the thread (“I’m not affiliated with the movement, I’m just sharing it”) in response to posts that stayed up - I feel like if you’re sharing something on your own community, you ought to be prepared to have a discussion about it. You thought it was worth posting, so there are probably reasons you thought that, right?
I don’t think anyone’s gonna click all those links, matey.
edit: please check the posting guidelines in the sidebar
I could have embedded the screenshots instead I suppose, but honestly I struggle to remember how to do that on fedi sites because I don’t do it very often.
I do have one post among the comments that were deleted, but I wanted to give a more zoomed-out overview of the goings-on rather than focusing on my own comment. If that’s not close enough to the desired format, then my bad… If that’s not what you’re referring to, though, I wouldn’t mind more specifics?
Unruffled is probably referring to the rules which forbid the deobfuscating of mod names here to prevent harassment.
quick reminder regarding the embedding: the format is the same as linking stuff, but with an leading exclamation mark:
Most clients allow me one to simple copy paste the image and it will be re-uploaded to lemmy
As far as I can tell, Fedia allows me to directly upload one image from the filesystem (not the clipboard) when submitting a new thread. I confess I was too lazy to open Paint and stitch together all the mod log images. 😔
Ah yes I don’t know about the kbin/piefed stuff. Was talking about lemmy specifically.
No worries! All our different platforms are doing their best! 😎
🤔 Deobfuscating the mod name would require me to be an instance admin, right? My screenshots were taken directly from my instance’s mod log. I took that to mean the moderation actions were done publicly (not set to anonymous by the moderator). Since the rule didn’t say “Always censor mod names” I thought I was doing things right. I suppose it’s possible there is an inconsistency in how Fedia displays the mod log, but I do see anonymous mod actions in there from time to time, so I don’t think it’s a case of Fedia not respecting the anonymity settings…
Anyway, I’ll go back and edit the images in the original post to use the embed format for convenience. (They show up as expandos here regardless.)
Is it just me or is Imgur completely unusable now?
The expandos aren’t loading right on Fedia, but I can click through the direct links without issue. I’ve been using Imgur for a while because it had an easy integration with ShareX. Happy to take suggestions for another image host if you have some though, I’m sure I’m behind the times on this.
I see Catbox used quite often around here.
Ugh, I tried. But it doesn’t work for me. Not yet, anyway.
edit: It works! Thank you kind stranger!
Catbox doesn’t work for some people
if you want the files to disappear after a few hours or max 3 days, you can also use Litterbox
Use your new powers responsibly and have a good one.
Better link is: !resist@fedia.io (for non fedia users)
Non Lemmy you meant? 😄
Nah, even if you’re an mbin user it’s a little annoying getting redirected from your home instance so you can’t interact with the post itself. i.e. you link a lemm.ee post to a .world user
To be honest this thing should just be fixed at the Lemmy UI level. Auto completion feature saves a lot of time, asking people to edit the links every time is unrealistic
I try to pay attention on !newcommunities@lemmy.world though
Agreed!
Photon does it automatically for me so it’s possible. You’re right they really should fix the janky UI.
Removed by mod
Is the moderor of that subreddit tokenboomer? Because I’ve had them tagged as “Tankie” for a while now.
It is. I would describe myself as an anarchist. I’m partial to council communism, and an advocate for a participatory economy. Just because I don’t join the circle-jerk of Marxist-Leninist hate doesn’t make me a tankie.
I would describe myself as an anarchist
If only it weren’t for the fact that you’re an authoritarian, as has been shown in the point of this post, as well as your failed attempts to justify your decision to remove comments that you didn’t like- comments that broke no rules.
So then you clearly aren’t a tankie, I’m saying this as an ancom myself. I must misinterpreted something you said.
But I do often label people who continually will defend Russia/China as tankies.
I would love to live in a world without authority. But, in a country of 350 million, in a world of 8 billion, I’m afraid it may not be possible. I try to remain optimistic and hopeful that it can happen. But, given the state of the world right now it’s tough.
Your submission in “@progressivepolitics@lemmy.world moderator shares a national shutdown proposal, deletes dozens of comments for being skeptical or critical” was removed for: No badjacketing.
Is it badjacketing when they make posts like “fascism is necessary”?
https://lemmy.world/post/25250918
Maybe “alt-right” is not the right label, but they definitely don’t seem like a good-faith actor to me.
Looks to me that video title is facetious
Read their comments on that post, then. Right near the top:
I disagree that the title is misleading, fascism is necessary to the ruling class, and an impetus to the organization of the working class.
Organizing workers through fascism is still fascism.
Did you watch the video or what?
You think a strike against Trumps America is a right wing move?
A failed strike could entrench him more, so it’s definitely important to get all stakeholders on board with a strategy they believe in. The UAW was already working on a plan when they ratified their most recent contract.
I explained in an edit to the post why I did it. I didn’t want to, but felt I had no choice. I’m willing talk about it, if you’re willing to listen.
