As the title says, I’m looking for some potential mods to help run this community.

If you are interested, are a current mod of the QDL Subreddit, etc., then drop a comment to this post explaining why you believe that you would be a good fit for mod.

  • Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    1 day ago

    This other issue was also opened in May: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4744

    I don’t want to go through the update timelines of LW and LBZ, but on !support@lemmy.world, LW admins still state that

    Note that, due to a bug in Lemmy, you will not be able to see reports in the community since your account is on a different instance. You could work around it by making a lemmy.world account just for moderating.

    https://lemmy.world/post/24616352?scrollToComments=true

    I had a look at the modlog, it works in this case indeed ( https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog/2942?page=1&actionType=All&modId=115895 ). I am not saying it never works. I am saying that there are known cases where it does not, which is why the LW admins recommend people to use local accounts. Maybe in this case it’s because the report was from a LBJ account for a LBJ community?

    I also posted about in 19 days ago on !fedigrow@lemm.ee: https://lemmy.world/post/24576402 . Other mods and admins reported other actions that would not federate. Nobody contradicted the fact that it could be working sometimes.

    The consensus recommendation is just to use local accounts while we wait for the fix to be released. It’s just easier than to try to figure out what works and what does not, in which conditions, etc.

    • A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.worldMEnglish
      2·
      1 day ago

      You don’t see any reports from a non-local account.

      Be aware the reports don’t federate, so people modding from non local accounts won’t get reports.

      I am not saying it never works.

      Maybe not currently, but that is what you have been saying.

      Maybe in this case it’s because the report was from a LBJ account for a LBJ community?

      No.

      There are federation issues with reports, but it’s not as simple as you’ve been saying, and having a local account doesn’t solve it. There’s a reason Qaz has several alts modded at 196 outside of LBZ. He needs them because there are several reports that don’t federate with LBZ, LW, or lemm.ee.

      • Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        1·
        7 hours ago

        No.

        I was curious so I had a look:

        A mod (probably from lemm.ee, but not sure as you can’t see which mod this it without being a mod on the lemm.ee modlog) indeed removed it in lemm.ee if people look at the user modlog: https://lemm.ee/modlog?userId=126228

        But the post is still up on LBZ: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/21242663/12597647

        And it doesn’t show up in the LBZ modlog:

        It also doesn’t show up on the 196 community log on lemm.ee:

      • Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        1·
        10 hours ago

        There’s a reason Qaz has several alts modded at 196 outside of LBZ. He needs them because there are several reports that don’t federate with LBZ, LW, or lemm.ee.

        So mods who don’t have that specific set of alts don’t see all reports? That should probably be raised to all the mods of the platform, as your team seems to be the only one aware of that issue.

        • A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          2·
          10 hours ago

          IIRC Qaz has mentioned it in the LBZ mod channel in Matrix at least once. If they didn’t hear it from him, it should be obvious something’s up when Ada tells them there are unresolved reports and their mod queue is empty.

          If you feel it should be shouted from the rooftops, then nobody is stopping you.

          • Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            2·
            10 hours ago

            Hello @qaz@lemmy.world ,

            Could you please provide some details on why you need all of the alts to mod !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone ?

            Seems like there are several reports that don’t federate with LBZ, LW, or lemm.ee.

            That’s a an issue that does not seems well know (as stated in the comments above, the general recommendation from the LW admins is to use a local account).

            • qaz@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              1 hour ago

              Some other AP platforms such as Kbin have many issues with federating reports and even bans / content removals. Some Lemmy instances don’t federate reports due to defederation and some don’t federate due to reasons that are still unknown. It’s even possible for the community’s host instance to not get any reports in some cases. It has happened before that after adding an alt, 80+ reports became visible that weren’t visible from any other instance.

              All in all, federation related to modding still feels really spotty and I often encounter weird problems, such as vanishing / inconsistent modlogs, reports not resolving (resolving reports doesn’t actually federate, which is quite annoying), and plethora of other issues. It seems that so far the Lemmy devs have bren busy with other things and thus mods have had to learn to deal with it with various scripts and bots.

              I have been planning on making a post discussing this, but I’m waiting for the problematic posts and images to be removed first.

              (Also I have to go soon so I didn’t have time to read the full discussion)

          • Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            1·
            10 hours ago

            I’m not even talking about LBZ or !196

            If all reports don’t make it to local mods, then that’s an issue that’s impacting the whole platform, hundreds of communities.

            I’m to reread the thread when Moss and Ada explained their versions of the issue, because this doesn’t seem right.