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I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you of all people, but I have as well and as strange as it may sound to people who haven’t, there is a certain proportion of the homeless population which is homeless by choice. It’s not a large proportion, but it’s not that small either.
It’s a chicken and egg problem with many schizophrenic and borderline homeless where you can’t tell if they ended up on the street due to mental illness or if living on the street made them mentally ill, but I have personally seen people choose to leave housing projects to go back to the street, and have heard similar stories from others.
That said, of course using this fact as an excuse to not do everything we can to house the majority of homeless who do want homes and to support the ones who don’t in other ways (soup kitchens, clinics, etc and mental health counseling for those who want it) is absurd.
Thank you. I’m glad there is finally someone else in this conversation that has also worked with the homeless.
I don’t know why people don’t think I’m sympathetic to homeless people–actually I do, they are just mad because I didn’t vote for Harris–but I am sympathetic. If I wasn’t, I wouldn’t have been able to work with them for so many years.
But it’s an addiction/mental illness problem, not an income problem for most homeless.
In fact, it’s very easy to look up too. So I don’t even understand why people here are arguing.
Now, money committed to the overall problem is needed, but UBI to people won’t actually solve the homeless situation for most of that population. Money for programs to help them, and stay with them, etc, WILL. But that’s not what what UBI is, and that is the point I was making.
And here’s the thing that Lemmy needs to know about this situation: Democrats have been in power plenty of times over the years. And the problem still hasn’t been solved. This isn’t a “Republicans caused this mess” problem. BOTH parties have fucked up on addressing this.
But I guess it’s easier for computer nerds who have never had to struggle in life just to say to say that I’m lying when I say I worked with the population for years. That’s easier than actually doing anything about it.
So Lemmy, step up. Dedicate your time and your money to helping the homeless. Then come back to this conversation and tell us what you learned.
Cuz I’m not taking Lemmy seriously. You guys have made $80K + a years since you were fucking 20. You all don’t know shit about the homeless population or what it’s like to work with them.
Not you, Peruvian Skies, I am talking about the other armchair critics in this thread.
No one is talking about the willing homeless as a problem, except for the fascists who are also gleefully dismantling the social aid networks for the mentally ill and addicted.
Yeah, we are. That’s what we are talking about in this sub conversation that started when someone said UBI would end the homeless problem overnight and i disagreed.
I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you of all people, but I have as well and as strange as it may sound to people who haven’t, there is a certain proportion of the homeless population which is homeless by choice. It’s not a large proportion, but it’s not that small either.
It’s a chicken and egg problem with many schizophrenic and borderline homeless where you can’t tell if they ended up on the street due to mental illness or if living on the street made them mentally ill, but I have personally seen people choose to leave housing projects to go back to the street, and have heard similar stories from others.
That said, of course using this fact as an excuse to not do everything we can to house the majority of homeless who do want homes and to support the ones who don’t in other ways (soup kitchens, clinics, etc and mental health counseling for those who want it) is absurd.
Thank you. I’m glad there is finally someone else in this conversation that has also worked with the homeless.
I don’t know why people don’t think I’m sympathetic to homeless people–actually I do, they are just mad because I didn’t vote for Harris–but I am sympathetic. If I wasn’t, I wouldn’t have been able to work with them for so many years.
But it’s an addiction/mental illness problem, not an income problem for most homeless.
In fact, it’s very easy to look up too. So I don’t even understand why people here are arguing.
Now, money committed to the overall problem is needed, but UBI to people won’t actually solve the homeless situation for most of that population. Money for programs to help them, and stay with them, etc, WILL. But that’s not what what UBI is, and that is the point I was making.
And here’s the thing that Lemmy needs to know about this situation: Democrats have been in power plenty of times over the years. And the problem still hasn’t been solved. This isn’t a “Republicans caused this mess” problem. BOTH parties have fucked up on addressing this.
But I guess it’s easier for computer nerds who have never had to struggle in life just to say to say that I’m lying when I say I worked with the population for years. That’s easier than actually doing anything about it.
So Lemmy, step up. Dedicate your time and your money to helping the homeless. Then come back to this conversation and tell us what you learned.
Cuz I’m not taking Lemmy seriously. You guys have made $80K + a years since you were fucking 20. You all don’t know shit about the homeless population or what it’s like to work with them.
Not you, Peruvian Skies, I am talking about the other armchair critics in this thread.
No one is talking about the willing homeless as a problem, except for the fascists who are also gleefully dismantling the social aid networks for the mentally ill and addicted.
Yeah, we are. That’s what we are talking about in this sub conversation that started when someone said UBI would end the homeless problem overnight and i disagreed.