Summary

DOGE initially claimed an $8 billion ICE contract reduction, but the actual figure was 1,000 times less at $8 million.

Despite correcting the ICE figure, DOGE did not adjust its overall $55 billion savings estimate, which lacks clear justification.

The ICE error wasn’t the only issue. CBS News found DOGE had triple-counted a $654.99 million savings on a single contract, overstating savings by as much as $1.96 billion.

Critics argue the errors remain unaddressed because “the propaganda of the numbers is important to them.”

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    The problem is that idiots are eating up these numbers. I have a few low information coworkers who just hear the stories about DOGE saving all this tax money on “wasteful” programs on right wing news outlets and are convinced, full stop. Now, they parrot all the information they hear and are “glad that someone is finally doing something about government waste”. They don’t look into whether or not the numbers that Elon Musk spits out are truthful, let alone whether or not those tax dollars were actually having a positive impact.

    We live in a post-truth society, and the Republicans have been abusing the people’s willingness to give authority figured the benefit of the doubt. No amount of untruth can ruin their credibility, because all it takes is a tiny kernel of truth to make it seem like it wasn’t actually a lie.

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      Bro it annoys me to no end that people genuinely believe that the government never does audits. Like all this DOGE bullshit was already an ongoing part of the federal bureaucracy in place to ensure funds aren’t misappropriated.

      Do people think there was zero accountability for the money??!?!!

      DOGE isn’t saving shit it’s a smokescreen to shift money around and enrich the unscrupulous assholes.

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      Had one come up to me while I was working with chemicals excited about his doge check… then complained about owing taxes. Had to bite my tongue so hard not to tell him gullible was written on the ceiling

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    Of course they are making up numbers. Noticing is irrelevant.

    In both russian regimes you just declare what the truth is and everyone either agrees or is the enemy.

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      Why is this even a question?

      Headline should read: “Musk, Trump, spouting BS numbers about budget, immigration, and literally everything else they do.”

      Change the date, you can run the same story every day.

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    If I may suggest a more concise headline:

    “Is Musk just making up- YES!!”

    He has profited from it more than any person on the planet. Literally. The ones who are probably richer like Putin or Saudi royals at least stole something of value from their people.

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      Full self driving will be generally available next year, every year for the better part of a decade. Oh, and humans will be on Mars by the end of 2025. And don’t forget Starship’s incredible 300, 150, 50 ton payload.

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    He’s in the right administration for it. Basically straight out of a trump playbook, if you can call narcissism a playbook.

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    Answer: yes, and so is trumps. Does anyone actually listen to what come out of their mouths? They just pull numbers out of their asses. $10, 1 billion, tens of thousands, hundreds of millions, probably more, I mean it’s just all made up.

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      Trump made up a number earlier today saying Zelenskyy’s approval rating is “4%”. The actual number is something like 56% iirc.

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        I mean they are intellectually and morally bankrupt…. Didn’t they want to cut the spending budget by…. More than we actually spend? It’s wild

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      I tend to listen to what come out off their mouth only because the sound of a fart always make me giggle

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    Wasn’t the stated goal to eliminate 2 trillion in spending? So, he’s destroyed the government’s ability to function and compromised the security of the government’s computer systems he’s only reached 2.75% of his stated goal? But not actually?

    I want off this ride

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      No matter what, Musk will never ever eliminate 2 trillion in spending. I would bet every last dime I have that in 4 years he won’t even come close to that number. Reason? First, corruption within the government does not want to eliminate spending because then it makes it harder for them to skim off the top. Trump just filled the government with lickspittles and lackwits who have no scruples that would prevent them from engaging in behavior like taking bribes or embezzling funds. Second, special interest groups, and most notably the largest special interest group of them all - defense contractors, will absolutely whip their bought-and-paid-for congressional representatives into shape if Musk even goes near the defense budget, which is the majority of where the wasted tax dollars go anyway.

      But it doesn’t matter that he won’t come close to that number, even when he cooks the books to make it looks like he’s saving 8 billion and not 8 million, he’ll just declare that any savings at all is still better than it was before even if he fell short of his laughably optimistic target. And the morons will eat it up and pat themselves on the back for gutting the government and exposing the nation’s most sensitive payment information to teenaged hackers.

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    Yes numbers are just made up.

    Yes everyone notices.

    Laws don’t apply to the rich.

    Putin, Trump and musk have screwed America over. America is done.

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    I bet the Trumpers can’t wait until they get their imaginary checks for their share of the imaginary DOGE savings.