• Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org
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    11 hours ago

    this only means they’re delusional.

    “when we stop to support the Ukraine with weapons, we’re sure nothing bad will happen and Putin will leave voluntarily if we just nicely ask him to”

    seriously, how disconnected from reality can one be?

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      11 hours ago

      That is an argument to be made. But it’s far away fromnthe party being friendly towards Putin’s Russia.

      Also, it’s not voluntarily. The Party wants to further the sanctions against Putin, his puppets and the russian military industrial complex and also want to put more international pressure on Russia.

      Again, we can debate how effective those measures would be, and given the recent news about how the sanctions against russia are circumvented I’d be unsure and personally I am supportive of arms deliveries for Ukraine, but accusations of being Putin’s friends are just false. If you want to see Putin’s puppets in the german parliament, look at AfD and BSW. You will see the differences, I think.

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        11 hours ago

        accusations of being Putin’s friends are just false

        that might be, but it doesn’t matter for me. AfD and BSW want to stop weapon deliveries just like Die Linke.

        AfD and BSW are Putins friends and what they demand leads to Putin getting (parts of) Ukraine. Die Linke isn’t Putins friend and what they demand leads to Putin getting (parts of) Ukraine. in the end it’s the same

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          Die Linke isn’t Putins friend and what they demand leads to Putin getting (parts of) Ukraine. in the end it’s the same

          No, that’s wrong. Die Linked demands the full retreat of Russia, international security guarantees and full ukrainian sovereignty.

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            Die Linke can demand from Putin whatever the hell they want. without weapons Ukraine is doomed and there’s no reason for Putin to listen to their demands and to think he’ll listen is, like I said, delusional (that’s my whole point).

            also, Putins promises and guarantees (which he won’t make) mean nothing. what’s stopping him from attacking again after rebuilding his army?

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              But Die Linke doesn’t (only) demands from Putin but wants to bring international pressure and international security guarantees.

              Again, I agree that Ukraine also needs weapons, but that’s not the point I’m arguing. I argue that saying “Die Linke is friendly towards Russia” is a false statement and that their points are not misrepresented.

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                “Die Linke is friendly towards Russia” is a false statement

                okay yeah, I agree with you on that. my point is that Die Linke is delusional in thinking Putin won’t win if Ukraine can’t defend itself