• m_f@discuss.online
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    2 days ago

    FYI you’re going to get a lot of downvotes because the source of the comic is a right wing extremist. The art style is recognizable enough that people will probably downvote it on sight, even if you’re repurposing it for a different point.

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      I’m aware of the alt-right original artist but I gave no credit and the formats still pretty useful all things considered.

      A bigger contribution to the number of downvotes is probably that anything Anti-Tankie and Anti-Luigi gets brigaded by them and their alts.

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      When you have large organizations, such as giant insurance companies or governments, dictating whether people can have care or not, when they ultimately say no to certain people, they will be mad, and perhaps set their targets on the CEO’s or government bureaucrats that denied their care.

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      People who think they can change the system by voting blue. They end up getting the whole both-sides-bad lecture in comment sections of Luigi Mangione posts, because the murder-cult has a different solution in mind which doesn’t involve a state.

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    I’m old sometimes. I looked just at the first and second panel and immediately thought, “Who’s Tankies? Some YouTuber? And does he like or play flugelhorn?” 😅. Then I read the rest and said, “Ohh … That Mangione.”

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    This is the second time this week someone has inadvertentlu appropriated a bit on conservative culture in an effort to lionoze ‘tankies’

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      Idgaf about Tankies feelings, but we agree that pebble yeet doesn’t deserve any publicity.

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        21 hours ago

        Yea, your opinion of tankies has come across just fine, it’s just curious to me that sentiment is so frequently communicated with conservative cultural references

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    Makes sense. Universal healthcare advocates and insurance CEOs both want a monopoly, one by the government and the other by capitalists. Either way, you have no choice in the matter. They dictate whether you get healthcare or not.

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      Context: If you want to give people choice and power in healthcare, you need to decentralize it, not centralize it. Because greedy people like centralization since it gives them money and power.

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        Kind of a shit take that supports the concentration of power and capital.

        Universal Healthcare is gained when a population as a whole demands that the wealth of others be distributed in a way that benefits the whole instead of the few.

        Decentralizing it, without a central authority, means wealth is not distributed and countless are left to suffer. In fact, how is that any different from the way things are right now?

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          Before the greedy consolidated healthcare into mega-organizations and privatized hospitals, most hospitals were run by charities, religious organizations, and local governments (usually counties). People paid cash for routine healthcare, which kept prices low, and had major medical insurance for major expenses. People had control over their healthcare.

          The system was not perfect, but it was a lot better than what we have today. And we can do a lot of things to make such a system better, such as requiring hospitals to provide indigent care to those who cannot afford to pay (i.e. free or reduced cost healthcare) in exchange for not paying taxes. If they chose not to provide indigent care, then they are taxed, and that tax money is used to fund government-run hospitals and clinics.

          You don’t have to centralize healthcare to provide universal healthcare. There are a number of ways to do it.

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            You don’t have to centralize healthcare to provide universal healthcare. There are a number of ways to do it.

            Well let me know when you accomplish that. Technically, there is absolutely nothing stopping you from doing it right now.

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              Yes, we already have that in many major counties in Texas, and it seems to be working very well. We provide universal healthcare, unlike the rest of the country, and yet taxes are still low, and people have a choice of providers.

              I would still make some recommendations that would make it better. Now we just need to refine and duplicate the model nationwide.