They should go to an actually queer accepting space. Accepting literal bigoted mockeries is not acceptance. This reminds me of the “radqueer” thing on Tumblr and TikTok where people who copy and fake disorders or LGBT identities are accepted. Even better they would call themselves trans [disorder] like trans-blind for example, because they wish they were blind. Actually blind people would be referred to cis-blind Because transgender people just wish they were the gender they identify as, right? It’s infuriating.
The gates and lines serve a purpose. It is okay to exclude bigots.
They should go to an actually queer accepting space.
Yeah, fair point. Pretty much all of Lemmy is queer-positive.
I sort of suspect that some of the nuttiness on blahaj is because the whole rest of Lemmy (a handful of tankies aside) is queer-positive, so they had to get really outlandish with it in order to be able to stand out in any way as “officially queer friendly,” more so than the other instances. And it also seems like they might have inherited some of Hexbear’s early-Lemmy “I am officially the right grouping, so I get to be an absolute knobhead and it is ok” ethos. But the truth is all of that is is just guessing. I have no idea.
I sort of suspect that some of the nuttiness on blahaj is because the whole rest of Lemmy (a handful of tankies aside) is queer-positive, so they had to get really outlandish with it in order to be able to stand out in any way as “officially queer friendly,” more so than the other instances. And it also seems like they might have inherited some of Hexbear’s early-Lemmy “I am officially the right grouping, so I get to be an absolute knobhead and it is ok” ethos. But the truth is all of that is is just guessing. I have no idea.
I think it’s the Tumblr swarm mentality, personality.
I sort of suspect that leftist communication places which show some kind of potential for people to develop unity, agree on common ground and form connections which might eventually be able to grow into something like /r/50501 or /r/SandersForPresident or something, become absolutely infested with bizarre hot-button arguing about vegan cat food or “transracial” or whether dragon is a gender, to pretty effective detriment of them being able to do that other thing. How much of it is from column “it be like that” and how much from column “it is on purpose to destroy the left,” I have no idea at all.
You’re not wrong. But also, the people who seem to be telling you that even bringing this whole issue up or worrying about it with any level of impassioned-ness might just be adding fuel to the bullshit, may kind of have a point I think. But yes, also, you’re not wrong.
You’re not wrong. But also, the people who seem to be telling you that even bringing this whole issue up or worrying about it with any level of impassioned-ness might just be adding fuel to the bullshit, may kind of have a point I think. But yes, also, you’re not wrong.
Like I said elsewhere in this thread - the only reason it got brought up to begin with was the accusation that everyone who left Blahaj on 196 did so because they were transphobes, and I wasn’t going to just smile and take that.
Yeah. I thought about wading into a big spiteful discussion about the precise meaning of the words “transphobia” and “misgendering” and the specific way they are being defined and used in this thread, and then I thought, “You know what? Not my circus, not my monkeys. It is of no concern.”
Guys: Are you (all of you) still going to be doing big performative stinks about this on whichever side, when the rate of people going into the camps goes into the thousands, or hundreds of thousands, instead of just big handfuls like they have now? That thing the German tourist said about people screaming the whole time she was there sort of got brushed aside in passing, when I felt like it should have gotten a lot more scrutiny.
They should go to an actually queer accepting space. Accepting literal bigoted mockeries is not acceptance. This reminds me of the “radqueer” thing on Tumblr and TikTok where people who copy and fake disorders or LGBT identities are accepted. Even better they would call themselves trans [disorder] like trans-blind for example, because they wish they were blind. Actually blind people would be referred to cis-blind Because transgender people just wish they were the gender they identify as, right? It’s infuriating.
The gates and lines serve a purpose. It is okay to exclude bigots.
Yeah, fair point. Pretty much all of Lemmy is queer-positive.
I sort of suspect that some of the nuttiness on blahaj is because the whole rest of Lemmy (a handful of tankies aside) is queer-positive, so they had to get really outlandish with it in order to be able to stand out in any way as “officially queer friendly,” more so than the other instances. And it also seems like they might have inherited some of Hexbear’s early-Lemmy “I am officially the right grouping, so I get to be an absolute knobhead and it is ok” ethos. But the truth is all of that is is just guessing. I have no idea.
I think it’s the Tumblr swarm mentality, personality.
I sort of suspect that leftist communication places which show some kind of potential for people to develop unity, agree on common ground and form connections which might eventually be able to grow into something like /r/50501 or /r/SandersForPresident or something, become absolutely infested with bizarre hot-button arguing about vegan cat food or “transracial” or whether dragon is a gender, to pretty effective detriment of them being able to do that other thing. How much of it is from column “it be like that” and how much from column “it is on purpose to destroy the left,” I have no idea at all.
You’re not wrong. But also, the people who seem to be telling you that even bringing this whole issue up or worrying about it with any level of impassioned-ness might just be adding fuel to the bullshit, may kind of have a point I think. But yes, also, you’re not wrong.
Like I said elsewhere in this thread - the only reason it got brought up to begin with was the accusation that everyone who left Blahaj on 196 did so because they were transphobes, and I wasn’t going to just smile and take that.
Yeah. I thought about wading into a big spiteful discussion about the precise meaning of the words “transphobia” and “misgendering” and the specific way they are being defined and used in this thread, and then I thought, “You know what? Not my circus, not my monkeys. It is of no concern.”
Guys: Are you (all of you) still going to be doing big performative stinks about this on whichever side, when the rate of people going into the camps goes into the thousands, or hundreds of thousands, instead of just big handfuls like they have now? That thing the German tourist said about people screaming the whole time she was there sort of got brushed aside in passing, when I felt like it should have gotten a lot more scrutiny.
What’s that?