A European Council summit dedicated to defense and Ukraine is slated for Thursday; EU leaders are expected to discuss ways to fund increased military expenditures.

Macron also hinted that he would propose a new defense budget for France, despite lacking a parliamentary majority to pass it.

  • Foni@lemm.ee
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    12 hours ago

    I don’t want my country to spend 3%, I want Europe to spend 3%. Together. An army. Spending individually is stupid. My country is not going to have a nuclear submarine or a complete aircraft carrier, Europe needs more than one

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      10 hours ago

      While that’s fine for a situation in which an European army existed, Orban would almost certainly veto such a proposal. In fact, he’d probably veto the EU spending a substantial amount together and call the EU warmongers. The solution is to have countries act independently on paper (with leadership coordinating) so that the EU doesn’t have to get involved in such a way that vetoes can block progress. That’s just the state of affairs at the moment.

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        8 hours ago

        While I agree that full integration under the EU-27 is impossible in practice, I do believe that something like monetary union would be possible. A two-speed union where those who are prepared are quickly integrated and those who do not want to are left out, still covered by the article 42 of the Lisbon Treaty, but without common forces based on its territory, that could make the difference between repelling an invasion or being released later, so there would still be strong incentives to want to enter.

        I am aware that it is also politically complex, but I do not see it as impossible with the current climate.

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        8 hours ago

        I’m not European but I am quite aware of the situation with Orban. What do you think would happen if, let’s say, UK, France, and Norway decided to build a top of the line nuclear powered aircraft carrier together?

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          They’d be able to help secure Europe, could get some sales to EU countries and such, but I see this as a project that would deal directly with established armies (and countries’ defence budgets) rather than going through the EU.